[Tip] Upgrade Core2Duo to play

[Sylver]

Not much for a C2D, you can only get 40€ out of the memory if it's DDR2, which is very sought after for PCs of this type.
I would ask for 100€, maybe it sounds a bit exaggerated to some but 25€ motherboard, 15€ micro, 40€ memory, 25€ graphics… rounding up 100€ would be its fair price.

Edit: Since according to Neptunno the graphics card is better valued, you could go up to 120€ for the set, +20€ for the graphics card (about 45€ alone)

By the way, don't bid here for your parts, I think buying and selling in threads is not allowed

Best regards!

[CRASHON]

Excuse moderators, it was not my intention to put anything up for sale, it was just reasonable doubts about the value of these components today.

Wow, I didn't think these components were worth so much…(if the memory is DDRII) and I also didn't think that upgrading would cost me 600 €, that amount just for the motherboard, memory, and card? What components were you recommending, neptunno???

To sum up, on the one hand, I either sell the graphics card and get a processor, which would leave me about the same... and I get an updated graphics card (120?) or I try to sell everything and spend a little more than 400 €.... is that right??

[Sylver]

I think it's a good idea to sell one of the two or sell both, and buy a new platform with new graphics.
For 600€ logically you can build the whole computer, not just the motherboard + memory + card
In fact, for about 400€ if you take advantage of parts like hard drive, case, etc., you can build a good machine to give a lot of fight.
For example, mine was:

-i5 2500K–---------------------------------------190€
-ASRock Z77 Extreme4-------------------------120€
-G.Skill Ripjaws X 8Gb (2x4Gb)----------------40€ (second hand with two months of use)
-Corsair TX 650 V2------------------------------50€ (second hand with 4 years of warranty still)

I reused the hard drive, graphics, case and disk drives, although I used the integrated graphics right now (which is not bad at all) but I have a powerful one for gaming :ugly: the 5850 Xtreme from the PC2 of my firm, which I am thinking about whether to get another one and mount it in crossfire or if I should get a superior one directly for that team, but anyway, that for barely 400€ you can build the main thing and add a little more for the graphics, or wait and save for the graphics, or get a processor a little simpler and a more economical motherboard, and with what you save get a decent graphics card. The important thing is that you will notice the change of platform, it depends on what you want the team to last, if you invest in components of higher quality and performance, they will last longer before asking for another update :sisi:

Regards!

[CRASHON]

I agree with your idea of quality components, I wouldn't know when I bought my current computer... but 0 problems from day one.

I probably already sold the motherboard, memory, processor, and graphics for 120 euros... so thanks for the recommendation.

Now, as you comment, I keep the case (that antec is good for a lot), power supply (it already cost me a lot), and hd... I would need a processor, motherboard (as long as it has gigalan, good sound, and not much more, that is, that it's good), memory, and graphics...

In the matter of graphics it's like everything, the truth is that the current one has given me a lot of fun... but from the 300 that I cost to the 40 practically that have been sold, I am clear that I will never buy the latest... so how is the market now, let's say to play battlefield 3 with good resolution and not everything at full but that you enjoy it well?

[Sylver]

That source is not bad, I think it will be good for you to feed all the new stuff, but be careful with overclocking and with putting in a very hungry graphics card, it can be dangerous.

Right now you have for example an i5-3570 for 196€
an ASRock Z77 Pro3 motherboard for 88€
G.Skill Ripjaws X 1600 8GB (2x4GB) memory for 37€
and a 7850 graphics card for example, which is around 170€

In total approx. 490€. With that you would already play perfectly everything with high resolutions and it would last you a while.
If you get it on Amazon you will probably save a little on each component, which lately have had some interesting prices and shipping is free.

¡Greetings!

[CRASHON]

Well I've checked prices and there's everything... the biggest differences in the processor but you should know that I'm going for that configuration... I've always listened to this family and I will continue to do so...
The only thing I'm unsure about is the graphics, I see that there are 1 and 2 gb I imagine that 2 gb will be recommended, right? Do you recommend any assembler?
If nothing happens next week there's a sale and I'll start ordering... thanks guys!!!!

[amd125]

Graphics I recommend 2 Gigas. Some current games like BF3 with a Giga are a bit on the limit to play in Full HD if you put filters. Assembler… it's up to preferences. The last ones I've had have been Sapphire and it's gone well. Don't buy a 1 Giga version to save less than 20€ that you will regret in the future.

Processor, well the 2500K or the 3570K. Better a K that comes unlocked and you can do an Overclock Majo. I prefer the 2500K it's cooler, it performs very well and it's cheaper.

[Sylver]

Here's another one who has good experiences with Sapphire :sisi: but indeed, it's a matter of preference, as amd125 rightly says.
As for the amount of memory, 2Gb is what you need since we are entering new generations of graphics. With 1Gb it's already good, but soon it will almost certainly be insufficient.

Greetings!

[_Neptunno_]

@amd125:

I prefer the 2500K it's cooler, it performs very well and it's cheaper.

Well, the truth is that there is barely any difference in performance between the two, but the 3570K is cooler, as it gives 77w compared to the 95w of the 2500k.
That is, I don't know the current prices, but depending on the difference, one or the other.

Personally, I think that for a long processor, choose one or the other

Regards!!

[CRASHON]

That that…long long!!!! Hahaha
A question, although I imagine the answer, the 2 modules of 4 memory, to 1 of 8 is to take advantage of the dual, right? Is it worth it?

[amd125]

@_Neptunno_:

Well, the truth is that there is barely any performance difference between the two, but the 3570K is cooler, as it runs at 77w compared to the 95w of the 2500k.
That said, I don't know what the prices are like right now, but depending on the difference, one might be better than the other.

Personally, I think that whichever processor you choose, it will be good for a long time

Best regards!!

I had read in several reviews that these new Intels were hotter than the previous ones, regardless of the fact that the 2500K, even though it's a bit cooler, does consume more.

Both CPUs are really good, to be honest: AnandTech - Bench - CPU

I would go for the 3570K with a good heatsink, but some 2500K's overclock a bit more. In short, both are great processors.. :troll:. and I'm still holding on with my Q6600 at 3.2 and hoping it lasts :llorar:

At the price of memory, 2 modules of 4 Gigas will be a steal. Better two modules than one for Dual Channel as you rightly pointed out.

[Sylver]

+1 to 2500K because it is cooler at temperatures even though it consumes more (very small difference), and because it goes further in overclocking :ugly:
+1 also to Dual Channel, it is always better to have two modules of the same capacity. See 2x2Gb, 2x4Gb, etc.

Best regards!

[CRASHON]

The price of the 2500k to 3570 is 1€ in some store… so if you think it's good... then the 2500k... right now I'm waiting to get paid for the c2d and for them to tell me something about the p4 which I might sell for 50 euros the whole box... let's see if there's any luck and an order next week ;D

[amd125]

@CRASHON:

Price of the 2500k to 3570 is 1 € in some store… so if you think it's good... then the 2500k... right now I'm waiting to get paid for the c2d and for them to tell me something about the p4 which I might sell for 50 euros the whole box... let's see if there's any luck and an order next week ;D

If you mount a good heatsink the 3570K is not a bad option, and if you're not going to do extreme overclocking either. The I2500K as they tell you can go up a little more, but we're saying that both micros are very good. If you don't care that the temperature is a little higher the 3570K is a good option.

As you can see in the review I gave you both are similar, but in general the 3570K pulls a little more. I if the difference is a Euro I would go for the 3570K. The thing is that in some stores the I2500K is about 30€ cheaper and I don't pay that for the difference in performance but a Euro… ;D Also the 3570K is not for leaving it stock :troll: just like the 2500K. There's a reason they have the multiplier unlocked :osvaisacagar:

Take your time to think it over, and read some reviews, but whatever option you choose you'll get a good micro.

jajaja the more we opine the more we confuse you :llorar:

[Sylver]

@amd125:

Take your time to think about it, and read some reviews, but whatever the option you choose, you'll get a good micro.

jajaja when we give more opinions we get you more confused :llorar:

Of course if… :ugly:

I've been so disappointed since I saw the "uncorking" of the Ivy... :ffu: for me the Sandy are more "noble" xD and more frecos, the truth is that's important.
Anyway, and to help tip the balance, despite going against my preferences, the Ivy has a technology of less nanometers, more performance in the long run and more advantages in new boards like native USB 3.0, integrated graphics, etc.
If the difference is a euro... 7 or 8 degrees more won't be so bad with a good heatsink and a moderate overclock

Best regards!

[amd125]

@Sylver:

Of course yes… :ugly:

I have been disappointed since I saw the "uncorking" of the Ivy... :ffu: for me the Sandy are more "noble" xD and more frequent, the truth is that is important.
Anyway, and to help tip the balance, despite going against my preferences, the Ivy has a technology of less nanometers, more performance in the long run and more advantages in new boards like native USB 3.0, integrated graphics, etc.
If the difference is a euro... 7 or 8 degrees more will not be so bad with a good heatsink and a moderate overclock

Best regards!

+1 Anyway if you have plenty of cash you buy both, you test them, and the one you don't want you give me, I'll give it a use.

[ferelxyx]

I think everyone already knows the pros and cons of the two micros… Undoubtedly, both are very good.
The Ivy Bridge has as points in its favor; 10% more performance, lower consumption, prepared for future graphics with PCI 3.

The Sandy Bridge; "Less" performance (without OC), but a beast when OC

I have the 3570K and it works very well, it's true that it gets hotter than the 2500K
but it's not that much and it performs much more, I have it at 4000Mhz and a half-decent cooler
and it doesn't go over 70º in full load and goes up a little more but I don't need more, it has plenty of power

keep in mind that it performs a little more than the 2500K so the O:C. although it's less, they perform similarly
EG: 3570K at 4000Mhz and the 2500K at 4200Mhz would perform practically the same

AnandTech - Bench - CPU

regards

[CRASHON]

As you are... one thing is to advise and another is to drive me crazy jejejeje

I affirm that the difference is 4 euros, and I am not an extreme OC user, on the c2d I had it because it cost me nothing to overclock it, with 2 bios tweaks, that is, I had to get a cooler that was more beastly.

I don't know about the future, but for now I am satisfied with a moderate OC (right now I don't want to complicate my life), that the cooler is not a turbine, and that the consumption is not an animal... then?

By the way... I think I could wait a little bit with the acquisition of the components... do you think the economic situation will change something?

Ferelxyx, the pc would be "similar" to yours, except for the motherboard and graphics card I think, what can you tell me about performance in games? I would also be interested in your experience with the crucial HC, since now I see them as a bit more affordable... do you have it for the OS?

Thanks again to everyone, that although right now you have me a bit dizzy, I appreciate it a lot.... and to the one who dropped the idea of getting 2 and giving one away... it's not that big of a deal jejejejeje

[Sylver]

@amd125:

+1 Anyway, if you have enough money, you can buy both, test them, and if you don't want one, you give it to me, and I'll use it.

Come on, that's exactly what I was going to suggest! You're a great guy jajaja :risitas:

@CRASHON:

How you are... one thing is to advise and another is to drive me crazy jejejeje

Don't worry, I think we've reached a small consensus. If the price difference is minimal, the cooler is decent and the overclock is moderate, the answer is directly:
Intel i5 3570K 3.4Ghz

And the graphics card is the 7850 with 2Gb

Best regards!

[ferelxyx]

@CRASHON:

Ferelxyx, the pc would be "similar" to yours, except for the motherboard and graphics card, I think. Can you tell me about the performance in games? I'm also interested in your experience with the Crucial HC, since now I see them as more affordable... do you have it for the OS?

I recently got it and I can tell you that I hesitated between the two computers as you did, because the first ones they released got very hot, but mine has good temperatures because they have already solved those problems

in terms of game performance, it's great. In the 3DMark 11, it surpassed all the 560Ti and almost reached the crossfire of the 7770
when with my previous C2D E6300 2.80 GHz @ 3.50 Ghz I couldn't even reach the Ati 6850

the solid state drive is working perfectly for now: fast, cool and quiet of course
and if I only use it for the OS, it's 64GB and of course, among other features, the system startup is very fast
and the shutdown is faster

regards