Geforce GTX 690 SLI

[incrediboy]

I would put only 3 graphics cards before mounting a quad sli and the fourth one for physx

[ELP3]

@incrediboy:

I would put only 3 graphics cards before assembling a quad sli and the fourth one for physx

But that's difficult to do with 2 dual GPUs.

You can do it through the control panel, assign one for physx and the other 3 for rendering. But it's not worth the price to pay for it, nor does leaving a "680" for physx make much sense.

Nvidia doesn't allow sli between different graphics cards..that's the shame, otherwise a single GTX 680 would be enough along with that 690.

Salu2.

[Jotole]

@ELP3:

Hello everyone.

I have several multi-gpu configurations, including a 4 Way SLI of GTX 680. Which is the same as what you propose but with 4 graphics instead of two doubles.

The first thing to consider is of course, the resolution at which you play, anything below 2560X1440p is practically throwing money away.

The second, is to see the equipment on which this configuration will be mounted to know if it will be taken advantage of or not, micro, motherboard, power supply etc..

And the third, is whether you notice 4 graphics but only in very few games that require such graphic expenditure with maximum options, or multimonitor with high options. I'm talking about Metro 2033, Sleeping Dogs in extreme, Hitman with 4XMSAA and little more…

But is it noticeable, little, not proportional to what it costs or to the scaling of a TRi SLI, but there it is.. generally the scaling is not proportional to the number of graphics, more because of the limitations of the rest of the hardware and games, than because of the drivers themselves. Which also have to be fine-tuned sometimes, obviously..

Best regards.

P.D.jotole..I find it difficult to distinguish you with the 3 instead of the E.. new year, new forum..new nick..;)..jeje A hug.

I went to register with the one I use everywhere (jotole). But it's already being used, which is the same as it being mine and not remembering the password, don't be surprised….........xD. That's why I put on the war avatar. ;).

A hug.....

[Franziskaner]

@jotol3:

I went to register with the one I use everywhere (jotole). But it's already being used, maybe it's mine and I don't remember the password, don't be surprised….........xD. That's why I put on the war avatar. ;).

A hug.....

I think you had an option to recover the password
greetings

[Jotole]

@Franziskaner:

I think you had an option to recover the password
regards

Hello Franziskaner, Yes I tried it, but it asked for an email that I didn't even remember having, as it was with an old internet provider.

Finally, by trying passwords, I have managed to recover it.

Thank you very much….

Salu2...

P.D. Sorry for the off-topic.

[fjavi]

@Jotole:

Hola Franziskaner, Sí lo itenté, pero me pedía un correo que ya ni acordaba que tenía, pues estaba con un antiguo proveedor de internet.

Finalmente, probando contraseñas, he logrado recuperarla.

Muchas gracias….

Salu2...

P.D. Siento el off-topic.

Diselo al administrador que anule uno,yo creo que me ocurrio que hice uno como fjavi y al final no pude activarlo,me quede sin ese correo,al intentar ponerlo salia como nick en uso pero creo que no hay naa nadie que lo use,debe ser el mio sin activar.

saludos

[Franziskaner]

@Jotole:

Hola Franziskaner, Sí lo itenté, pero me pedía un correo que ya ni acordaba que tenía, pues estaba con un antiguo proveedor de internet.

Finalmente, probando contraseñas, he logrado recuperarla.

Muchas gracias….

Salu2...

P.D. Siento el off-topic.

pues habla YA con un moderador o con Pako porque esta terminantemente prohibido tener dos cuentas y como te pillen te banean de por vida
saludos

[packosoft]

OT: those of you who have any weird issues with old users and so on, send me a private message to fix it and leave only the one you want, okay?

Let's continue with the SLI topic which is more interesting

[scrapland]

Regarding the SLI topic. I have a gtx 690 and a Corsair 850w power supply. If in the future I wanted to do it, would the power supply be enough for me?

Best regards!

[fjavi]

@scrapland:

Regarding the SLI topic. I have a gtx 690 and a Corsair 850w power supply. If in the future I wanted to do it, would the power supply be enough for me?

Regards!

What kind of equipment do you have?
I think that power supply is just enough, but if this is true it seems that it doesn't consume too much,
AnandTech - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 Review: Ultra Expensive, Ultra Rare, Ultra Fast

But 850W seems very little to me for quadSLI, maybe if you use Vsync in games that don't work at full capacity the cards could hold up, but that power supply will work at full capacity, anyway I have one of those Corsair 850w and with two 480 overclocked and a 920 plus quite a few HDDs and fans it didn't give me any problems, although with 4 it's another thing and it doesn't matter that the 690 consumes little, the same in some game like Metro2033 your computer could turn off, Nvidia recommends a 650W for the 690 which is quite good, but with two it would be advisable to have a power supply with 300W more, that is 950W or 1000W.

Here they say it consumes very little and they do it in multimonitor that must work more, maybe it could hold up but it would be advisable to have a better power supply to be calm.
Review: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 in SLI Surround - Graphics - HEXUS.net - Page 4

that one says Batman arkhan city and that game doesn't have a very good SLI profile, maybe in Metro2033 or more demanding games it consumes more.

regards

[Sylver]

Let me see because I have my doubts about this post... especially because the one who started it hasn't responded again and I don't know if I'm misinterpreting it...
Is it a QUAD-SLI or just a SLI? Because theoretically with a QUAD-SLI of GTX 690 you need more than 1000W clean to power... But with just an SLI with that 850W power supply you're flying even with both graphics at full capacity, and more so being a Corsair.

Regards

[ELP3]

First you have to know the complete equipment to know if the expense will be greater or not.

It is not the same expense of an SB as that of a Nehalem.

In principle, I am not very fond of equipment with very tight budgets. But those 690 spend so little.. with a TPD of 300W… that a Corsair 850W could perhaps move them without excessive problems.

I had a Quad of 9800GX2 on one of 850W and a Q9650 that was very expensive, and it did not give problems.

But to be safe, their thing would be a good FA of 1000W...

Best regards.

[scrapland]

This will be my future team: Corsair Obsidian 650D Corsair HX850 850W 80 Plus Gold Intel Core I7-3930K 3.2Ghz Box Socket 2011 Asus P9X79 Deluxe Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H100i Corsair Vengeance PC3-1280 DDR3 1600 32GB 4x8GB CL10 OCZ Vector SATA3 2.5 SSD 256GB WD Caviar Black 2TB SATA3 64MB Asus GeForce GTX 690 4GB GDDR5 LG CH10LS28 DVD Burner Blu Ray Player I work with Windows 8 pro 64 bits, professionally dedicated to photography and obviously to the “Gamer” world in leisure matters. I will surely end up assembling another WD Green disk for storage. The team is ready to assemble at PC Components. My question is; For 26 euros more (and given the fortune I spend), is it better to go for the Corsair HX1050 V2 1050W 80 Plus Gold, right? Greetings and thank you very much for the contributions!

[scrapland]

AH! and forgive my ignorance, I have been disconnected from PC Hardware for a long time. What is the difference between a QUAD-SLI configuration and an SLI "as such"?

I was thinking of an SLI "as such" configuration when in the future I can't run games at full capacity... which I hope will take a while with this equipment.

By the way, a DELL U3011 monitor with its 2560x1600 resolution is also on its way home... gulp!

Greetings and thanks again in advance!

[Sylver]

Apart from the fact that there are 4 graphics cards against only 2, as my colleagues have mentioned before, the performance is only noticeable in some games and at very high resolutions, depending on the monitor and the rest of the equipment.
The point is that with an 850W Corsair power supply, you can run an SLI of GTX 690 without any problems, and there should be enough power left for the rest of the equipment, even with a lot of hardware connected and on a power-hungry platform (it's all about using a page to calculate the power needed according to each person's equipment). Now, if we talk about a tri-SLI or even a quad-SLI, power will be needed everywhere.

Regards

[ELP3]

@scrapland:

This will be my future rig:

Corsair Obsidian 650D
Corsair HX850 850W 80 Plus Gold
Intel Core I7-3930K 3.2Ghz Box Socket 2011
Asus P9X79 Deluxe
Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H100i
Corsair Vengeance PC3-1280 DDR3 1600 32GB 4x8GB CL10
OCZ Vector SATA3 2.5 SSD 256GB
WD Caviar Black 2TB SATA3 64MB
Asus GeForce GTX 690 4GB GDDR5
LG CH10LS28 DVD Burner Blu Ray Player

I work with Windows 8 pro 64 bits, professionally dedicated to photography and obviously to the “Gamer” world in leisure matters. I will probably end up assembling another WD Green drive for storage.

The rig is ready to be assembled at PC Componentes. My question is; For 26 euros more (and given the wad I spend), is it better to go for the Corsair HX1050 V2 1050W 80 Plus Gold, right?

Greetings and thank you very much for the contributions!

The PSU is the only component of a rig that can be reused for its entire life. Whenever you go to buy from scratch and have the budget, I advise the biggest and best ones, which don't have to be linked..Undoubtedly, with a 1050W, you wouldn't have for example the "dilemma" of the companion for just 26€ more..and those PSUs are already very efficient and consumption doesn't go up at all.

Best regards.

[Sylver]

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@ELP3:

La FA es el único componente de un equipo,que puede ser reutilizado la vida total del mismo.Siempre que se vá a comprar de 0 y se tenga presupuesto,yo aconsejo las mas "grande" y mejor,que no tienen porque ir ligados..Indudablemente,con una 1050W,no tendrías por ejemplo el "dilema" del compañero por tan solo 26€ mas..y esas fuentes són ya muy eficientes y el consumo no se dispara nada.

Un saludo.

Pues yo aconsejo una "suficiente" y efectiva. Comprar una fuente de tropecientosmil vatios para un equipo que va a consumir un máximo de ~750W con el pretexto de "por si amplío el equipo" no suele ser la mejor opción, ni para el rendimiento ni para el bolsillo. Funcionar funciona, pero es un derroche de dinero y de potencia sin utilidad. Tampoco digo que sea ningún caso presente, pero resalto la importancia del criterio.

Si existe la previsión de una ampliación a corto-medio plazo, pues si veo bien adquirir de antemano una fuente un tanto más potente, por ejemplo para una futura configuración multi-gpu cuando una sola gráfica se quede obsoleta en el equipo, desde el punto de vista de la necesidad, pero seguiría sin hacer falta una bestialidad de vatios. Mayormente, porque se hacen gráficas que dan un rendimiento lo bastante alto como para no necesitar configuraciones multi-gpu, considerando que satisfacen plenamente las demandas más exigentes. De ahí que por ejemplo montar cuatro gráficas del modelo más potente existente rebase con creces el límite de la necesidad.
Otra cosa es que uno pueda permitírselo y planee las futuras ampliaciones y configuraciones multi-gpu de máximo rendimiento por mero capricho y disfrute, ahí ya nos salimos del debate, y hay un abanico inmenso de posibilidades en el mercado, para quien guste comprar burro grande, ande o no ande.

Saludos

[Jotole]

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@Sylver:

A parte de tratárse de 4 gráficas frente a sólo 2, como bien han comentado los compañeros anteriormente el rendimiento sólo se nota puntualmente en algunos juegos y a muy altas resoluciones, dependiendo así del monitor y el resto del equipo.
El asunto es que con una fuente Corsair de 850W mueves un SLI de GTX 690 sin problemas, y debería sobrar suficiente potencia para el resto del equipo, incluso con mucho hardware conectado y en una plataforma tragona (todo es usar una página de cálculo de potencia necesaria según el equipo de cada uno). Ahora, si hablamos de un tri-SLI o ya de un quad-SLI, hará falta potencia por todos lados.

Saludos

Eso dependerá de si le hace OC al procesador o no. No sé si ELP3, ha medido el consumo de su 4 way, que debe ser similar al que aquí se comenta.

Pero mi 3930 a 5Ghz con el 3 way de 670 sin ocear, se va a 700/750 W. Muy justa veo yo una fuente de 850W, sobre todo porque si puede con ese QuadSli, va a estar trabajando siempre al 100%, y eso le resta vida a la fuente a pasos agigantados.

Salu2…

[ELP3]

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@Jotole:

Eso dependerá de si le hace OC al procesador o no. No sé si ELP3, ha medido el consumo de su 4 way, que debe ser similar al que aquí se comenta.

Pero mi 3930 a 5Ghz con el 3 way de 670 sin ocear, se va a 700/750 W. Muy justa veo yo una fuente de 850W, sobre todo porque si puede con ese QuadSli, va a estar trabajando siempre al 100%, y eso le resta vida a la fuente a pasos agigantados.

Salu2…

No.Pero es lo que estamos comentando.Tú tienes un 3930K a 5,0GHZ…un 6 núcleos verdaderos,12 si sumamos los virtuales con HT y mucho mas gastón que un SB,por ejemplo.Aparte,de que aunque no lo creas,el consumo de 2 GTX 690,se sitúa en el rango de un TRI SLI de GTX 670 oceado..esas gráficas consumen MUY poco para lo que rinden.Nvidia lo hizo muy bien esta vez con su dual..un SLI de GTX 680,gasta como 60-70W mas que la GTX 690.

Depende del equipo,OC ..etc..pero estoy 100% seguro,que una Corsair 850W puede mover ese Quad GTX 690 aunque no sea lo recomendable.

En cuanto al tema de las fuentes,no es lo mismo 1000W en una NOX,que una Corsair o en una Silverstone,por ejemplo..de hecho una de mis fuentes,la enermax Platimax 1500w,es mucho menos gastona en poca carga de lo que lo sería la Nox de 1000W debido a su eficiencia platino.Que una fuente tenga 1000w,no significa para nada que vaya a gastar eso sino está a plena carga,y evidentemente prefiero una 1050W con buena eficiencia,que una 850W con peor o igual...hablamos de 25€ y una diferencia que en casos como este,es totalmente relevante.

Evidentemente,si te vás a montar un HTPC,no tienes porque poner una FA de 1500W,pero si es un ordenador gamer,y la fuente empieza a ser de potencia considerable,es mejor irse por poco mas dinero a una mejor,mas potente y mas eficiente,ya que como digo,siempre tendrás fuente para toda la vida.Yo la primera fuente que compré para ordenadores potentes,fué una TT Toughpower de 1500W hará ya unos 5 años..y ahí está como una campeona aguantando todo lo que se la he echado,con overcloks insanos a 4 gráficas a la vez y sin ningún tipo de problema.Si en vez esa,hubiese comprado una 850W por ejemplo,el desembolso hubiese tenido que ser el doble..pues me hubiese tenido que comprar otra fuente por obligación al poner 4 Fermis por ejemplo..

Un saludo.

[Sylver]

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Tanto como "para toda la vida"… Yo de una fuente fuera de garantía empiezo a no fiarme progresivamente, y más teniendo siempre presente la odiada obsolescencia programada :nono:

Saludos