MSI Big Bang-XPower II X79
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Excellent review.
I have a question, how is the BIOS for overclocking? Can you overclock by offset? Are they well debugged?
In some reviews, they say it's a bit weak in terms of overclocking and BIOS, except for one.. I closed the tab :facepalm:, but anyway, do you recommend it?
Hello, Pinky,
Honestly, I think the BIOS is very complete, maybe with fewer details than the Rampage's, which is the most complete I've seen, but solid as a rock. A bit convoluted, because the terms are not like in most motherboards, but once you get used to it, no problem.
As for overclocking, you've seen in my screenshot how I have the equipment set up for 24/7, and once the overclocking is stabilized, it doesn't give any kind of problem. It's true that this range, the X79, seems to have come out without even being tested. I say this because of the many problems that are happening with almost all the motherboards of this chipset.
I've gone through the Rampage IV Extreme, an Asrock 7, and this one, so far, hasn't given me any problems. From the first moment, it gives a sense of security.
From what I've seen in my version of the BIOS, I have the 1.3, (and it can be updated to 1.5), you can't overclock by offset. I haven't updated the BIOS because I'm one of those who think that if something works better, don't change it ;).
I also never overclock by offset, I'm old school, and the first thing I disable are the power savings, overclocking, the old-fashioned way…............xD.
I've heard that MSI, in the mid/low range leaves much to be desired, honestly this motherboard is more than good, with a very contained price and power and stability for whatever you want.
I do recommend it.
Regards...
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Honestly, I don't know why I'm asking about the offset, if I also disable energy savings, ;D honestly the board looks great.
Thank you very much for the comment, so I think I've already decided. :mudo:
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The truth, I don't know why I ask about the offset, if I also disable energy savings, ;D the truth is that the board looks great.
Thank you very much for the comment, so I think I have already decided. :mudo:
I think it's a very good choice…......... ;).
You're welcome.
Best regards.
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I think it's a very good choice…......... ;).
No hay de que.
Un Saludo.
I don't know if the rumors are true but it is said that Intel cancels Ivy-E and puts Haswell-E at the end of the year, if that is true and that Haswell works for the 2011 platform with the X99, it will be proven that if Haswell doesn't put it in the 1155 it's because it doesn't feel like it, anyway they are rumors but it is curious.
let's see what happens in the end.
saludos
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I think it's a very good choice…......... ;).
No hay de que.
Un Saludo.
That motherboard and that XSPC block sound familiar to me… ;D
That MSI looks great, it's a beauty, thanks for this analysis.
I don't know if the rumors are true but it's said that Intel cancels Ivy-E and puts Haswell-E at the end of the year, if that's true and that Haswell works for the 2011 platform with the X99, it will be proven that if Haswell isn't put in the 1155 it's because they don't feel like it, anyway, they are rumors but it's curious.
let's see what happens in the end.
saludos
If instead of releasing Ivy-E they release Haswell-e directly, I see it as an advance for users, don't you?, we skip a generation and they give us a better one, that's supposed to be, hehe
I'm totally against backward compatibility and I think it's correct that the socket changes, as a general rule, new chipsets bring new things.
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Personally, I see it as a step forward if Haswell-E is indeed compatible with X79, if in the end it only works with X99, I'll think it's a joke on the part of Intel for people who have X79, it will show me that they released socket 2011 too early.
If it really happens and it's compatible with x79, it will be better for users because they can upgrade a CPU and have a similar or better performance to Haswell from socket 1150, it should be compatible one way or another.
I also think it's absurd to release Haswell on the 1150 and release Ivy-E on 2011 because it won't look like the high-end platform, although these are rumors and nothing is certain yet.
regards
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I agree with you fjavi about the joke, but that's something Intel has been doing for several generations, the Intel platform that left me with the best taste is the 1366 both with the Nehalem and the Gulftown (the best processors Intel has ever released, cool, fast and stable as a rock that performs and rivals with an entire SB-E), this X79 platform seems to have come out not in beta, but directly in alpha, due to the large number of problems and failures that are being seen, but if with the supposed reversal of X99 we return to the stability and finesse of the 1366 era for me it will be very welcome and I will switch to it quickly since SB-E has not left me with a good taste in my mouth and has given me many problems, especially with Asus and its crazy ideas in the bios, which although it may seem unbelievable and after a few years they continue to do the same stupidity of losing values and setting up in a factory way habitually, so I am one of those who expect that supposed reversal like water in May.:wall:
Regarding the MSI (which I have deviated a bit ;D ), it is a great motherboard and from the first day it caught my attention a lot, I was lucky enough to try its counterpart in X58 and it was stable as a rock but with the usual MSI failure, until almost a year passes they do not find stability, that is, once they have it they have nothing to envy to the most advanced and exclusive motherboards on the market for less price, excellent review Jotole and as always chapeau.
Greetings and a pleasure to debate with you.
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Praimus I see it as an advancement if Haswell-E is really compatible with X79, if in the end it only works with X99 I will think it's a joke on Intel's part for people who have X79, it will show me that the socket 2011 was released too green.
If it really happens and it is compatible with x79 it will be better for users because they will be able to upgrade a CPU and have a similar or better performance to Haswell from the socket 1150, it should be compatible if or if.
I also see it as absurd to release Haswell in the 1150 and release Ivy-E in 2011 because it won't be left as the high-end platform, although these are rumors that there is nothing certain yet.
regards
To me it doesn't matter at all not being able to plug a haswell-e into my old x79 if with it I gain performance or other improvements, wanting to reuse hardware in many cases makes us drag problems.
I say, if we win, to stay the same I'll stay as I am and I understand what you mean fjavi.
On the joke I agree with you fjavi, but that's something that Intel has been doing for several generations, the Intel platform that left me with the best taste is the 1366 both with the Nehalem and the Gulftown (the best processors that Intel has released in its history, cool, fast and stable as a rock that performs and rivals with all an SB-E), this X79 platform seems to have come out not in beta state, but directly in alpha, due to the large number of problems and failures that are being seen, but if with the supposed reversal of X99 we return to the stability and finesse of the 1366 era for me it will be very welcome and I will switch to it quickly since SB-E didn't leave me a good taste in my mouth and gave me many problems, especially with Asus and its crazy ideas in the bios, that although it may seem unbelievable and after a few years they continue to do the same stupidity of losing values and setting by default habitually, so I am one of those who expect that supposed reversal like water in May.:wall:
Regarding the MSI (that I have deviated a bit ;D), it is a great motherboard and from the first day it caught my attention a lot, I was lucky to test its counterpart in X58 and it was stable as a rock but with the usual MSI failure, until almost a year passes they don't find stability, that is, once they have it they have nothing to envy to the most advanced and exclusive boards on the market for less price, excellent review Jotole and as always chapeau.
A greeting and a pleasure to debate with you.
Exactly, this is what I refer to Alcor, if with the change of chipset, socket or whatever we leave behind failures or gain improvements ¿why not?
By the way, what an offtopic we are putting to Jotole.
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I agree with you fjavi about the joke, but that's something Intel has been doing for several generations. The Intel platform that left me with the best taste in my mouth is the 1366, both with the Nehalem and Gulftown (the best processors Intel has ever released in its history, fresh, fast and stable as a rock that performs and rivals any SB-E). This X79 platform seems to have come out not in beta, but directly in alpha, due to the large number of problems and failures that are being seen. However, if the supposed reversion to X99 returns to the stability and finesse of the 1366 era, I will welcome it very much and I will switch to it quickly since the SB-E didn't leave me with a good taste in my mouth and gave me many problems, especially with Asus and its antics in the bios, which, believe it or not, after a few years they continue to do the same silly thing of losing values and defaulting habitually, so I am one of those who expect that supposed reversion like water in May.:wall:
Regarding the MSI (which I have strayed from a bit ;D), it is a great motherboard and from the first day it caught my attention a lot. I was lucky enough to test its counterpart on X58 and it was as stable as a rock but with MSI's usual problem, until almost a year passes they don't find stability, that is, once they have it, they have nothing to envy to the most advanced and exclusive motherboards on the market for less price, excellent review Jotole and as always chapeau.
Regards and a pleasure to debate with you.
You are right but I think it's not just Asus, Gigabyte is the same, they are the most important manufacturers, in fact, not many X79 have been released. To be honest, the R3E works like a charm for me, of course it's x58, but I have the same OC configuration for years, sometimes I lower the latency to the memory but not a single failure, that's why I blame more the x79 itself than the motherboards although some give fewer problems.
Perhaps many problems are also in the CPUs that have disabled parts, that socket is very large with quite a TDP and it may have happened to it like the Q6600 b3 or the 920 C1, which were not as good as the next revision.
But perhaps a Haswell of those will be much better and more stable, even on an X79 if they are really compatible.
@Praimus:I don't care at all about not being able to pin a haswell-e on my old x79 if it means gaining performance or other improvements. Trying to reuse hardware in many cases makes us drag problems.
I mean, if we gain, to stay the same I'll stay as I am and I understand what you mean fjavi.
I agree, but if you gain PCIe 3.0, 8 real cores, not two disabled, better TDP, better OC and stability and you only change a CPU, it's welcome.
But I suppose the x99 will have more advantages, but it will be more expensive to change, for example Jotole would benefit from just changing a CPU, although in the end if he likes an x99 he will also change the motherboard, if there are advantages to change.Apologies to Jotole, although in reality we are talking about X79, it would be interesting to know if they will be compatible for those who already have X79.
regards
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That motherboard and that XSPC block sound familiar to me... ;D
Wow, that MSI looks great, it's a beauty, thanks for this review.
If instead of releasing Ivy-E they release Haswell-E directly, I see it as a step forward for users, right? We skip a generation and get a better one, that's the idea, hehe
I'm totally against backward compatibility and I think it's right that the socket changes, as a general rule, new chipsets bring new things.
I honestly don't care about not being able to put a Haswell-E in my X79 rig if it means gaining performance or other improvements, wanting to reuse hardware often drags problems with it.
I mean, if we're gaining something, to stay the same I'll stick with what I have and I understand what you're saying fjavi.
Exactly, that's what I'm referring to Alcor, if by changing the chipset, socket or whatever we leave behind bugs or gain improvements, why not?
By the way, what an off-topic we're getting into with Jotole.
Thank you very much. ;), and don't worry about the off-topic, it's absolutely fine.
Who knows, maybe we'll see an MSI Xpower III X99, in this very thread ;).
Best regards..
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A placon… nothing to argue about except the heat sink from SB... some people will like it... but I think we are in the majority who don't like those bullet or bullet casing designs... XD
Luckily they will change it for dragons... jajaja
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Un placon… nada que discutir excepto el disipador de SB... habra gente que le guste... pero creo que somos mayoria los que no gustan de esos diseños de balas o cartuchos de balas... XD
Por suerte lo cambiaran por dragones... jajaja
Ya ves, garruladas Gigabyte/MSI para los shooteros xD
Aquí por suerte se ha pasado por agua ;D
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Un placon… nada que discutir excepto el disipador de SB... habra gente que le guste... pero creo que somos mayoria los que no gustan de esos diseños de balas o cartuchos de balas... XD
Por suerte lo cambiaran por dragones... jajaja
Ya ves, garruladas Gigabyte/MSI para los shooteros xD
Aquí por suerte se ha pasado por agua ;D
Sí la verdad que la temática que están utilizando últimamente para los disipadores de las placas tienen telita…....xD.:wall:
Con lo sencillo y bien que quedarian disipadores en negro mate y a tirar..............En Fin,
Yo desde que empezé a "mojarme", lo paso todo por agua..........., mejor rendimiento,menos temperaturas, y mas bonitos.............xD.
Gracias por los comentarios, y Bienvenido por aqui kpablo.
Salu2…
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Sí la verdad que la temática que están utilizando últimamente para los disipadores de las placas tienen telita…....xD.:wall:
Con lo sencillo y bien que quedarian disipadores en negro mate y a tirar..............En Fin,
Yo desde que empezé a "mojarme", lo paso todo por agua..........., mejor rendimiento,menos temperaturas, y mas bonitos.............xD.
Gracias por los comentarios, y Bienvenido por aqui kpablo.
Salu2…
te han escuchado, lastima que parece no va a salir a la venta, pero la pinta es buena.
Rampage IV Extreme - Black - The Ultimate In Tech Exclusivity - Republic of Gamers
dicen que las tiene Nvidia para un proyecto ni idea de que se trata.
saludos
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Pues es una lástima, me gusta más en negro que roja y negra, no se si traerá algo más con respecto a la Rampage normal, pero desde luego impresiona ver toda la placa negra ;D
Un saludo.
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