Test of the Real Nvidia Gtx Titan, single-sli-tri Sli, 4 WAY SLI
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Patagonico I think the Titan will go down with the release of the Ti, if it doesn't do it soon for sure in January, but seeing prices I wouldn't be surprised at all if they go down more than 100€, possibly more some Zotac.
The situation is complicated because the 690 doesn't go down even at gunpoint, but for sure the manufacturers will have to start making offers to get rid of them because otherwise they won't sell anything, I think the same of the 690 that they will have to cut them down by about 500€ to sell them and even then maybe they won't sell them, these ranges are so expensive when they have to cut it down they do it quite a bit.
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According to the dissipation, with RL it may be possible to go up a bit more, the important thing is to cool the VRMs well, for air it is not recommended more than 1.25v, perhaps it could pass benchmark at 1.29v, but games are different.
The problem is not the core temperature, it's the VRMs that will heat up much more, for example the 780s those MSI custom ones that have many phases will possibly hold more and with RL if the VRMs maintain the temperature better it could be put a little more, but it all depends on how hot the VRMs get.
These should hold more voltage, they come prepared for extreme OC but the Titans are reference models and will hold less.
http://videocardz.com/45493/msi-geforce-gtx-780-lightning-launch-gallery
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My dissipation would not be the problem, but if the VRMs compared to the MSI Lighting a big deal.
As you rightly mention fjavi the Titans are reference models next to those MSI, I have them passed through water with the aquacomputer kryographics blocks. In summer playing in surround with the tri sli they do not exceed 38 Gº, with the modified Bios with the vcore 1.212.
The issue is that they do not exceed 1,750 Mhz since they have not come out very good compared to yours and I would like to exceed those 1,200 Mhz.
For now, when I have time I will mess around to see how much I can squeeze them....Best regards.
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Patagonico I think the Titan will drop with the release of the Ti, if it doesn't do it soon, for sure in January, but seeing prices I wouldn't be surprised if they drop more than 100€, possibly more some Zotac.
The situation is complicated because the 690 doesn't go down even at gunpoint, but surely the manufacturers will have to start making offers to get rid of them because otherwise they won't sell anything, I think the same about the 690 that they will have to cut them down by about 500€ to sell them and even then they might not sell them, these ranges are so expensive when they have to cut it down they do it quite a bit.
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Thanks a lot! I'm not in a hurry to buy it and I'll wait for the release of the Gtx 780 Ti.
For now the cheapest one is Zotac for 864€, 875€ Asus, 900€ Evga, 900€ Gigabyte in Spanish stores.We'll keep an eye on the market
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My dissipation would not be the problem, but the VRM compared to the MSI Lighting is a different story.
As you rightly mention fjavi, the Titans are reference models compared to those MSI, I have them watercooled with aquacomputer kryographics blocks. In summer, playing in surround with tri sli, they do not exceed 38 Gº, with the Bios modified with vcore 1.212.
The issue is that they do not exceed 1,750 Mhz as they have not turned out to be very good compared to yours and I would like to exceed those 1,200 Mhz.
For now, when I have time, I will mess around to see how much I can squeeze them...Best regards.
I suppose you mean 1150 MHz.. I think 1200 would be easy, although perhaps one is not good and is the one that limits you the most, but with RL it should be easy, surely the one that raises the least is the one that asks for more voltage, but giving it something should raise it.
Let's see what ELP3 says, he is the one who has the 4 Titans raised and has been giving them voltage and they have raised even more, anyway I think that to play with them at 1200 they should already perform very well and more if they are two or three, the bad thing about having more than one is that if one is bad it does not let the others go up, but perhaps that one feels good raising the voltage a bit.The best thing is to try and raise it little by little and more to look for stability in games.
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@xenxo_80:Thank you very much! I am not in a hurry to buy it and I will wait for the release of the Gtx 780 Ti.
For now the cheapest is Zotac for 864€, 875€ Asus, 900€ Evga, 900€ Gigabyte in Spanish stores.We will keep an eye on the market
The thing is that if they do not go down you might be interested in waiting for the 20nm, there are months left but it would be worth it with the Titan even if you lower options and wait for Maxwell or what AMD comes out with.
The new generation should be noticeable and the same a simple 860Ti could perform like the Titan, you put two and you can already perform much better, and much cheaper.
If this is true those should perform much better in multimonitor and 4K.
http://www.chw.net/2013/10/posibles-especificaciones-de-los-gpus-nvidia-maxwell/
there are rumors that say Q1 2014, although I think they will be in the middle of the year.Best regards
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My opinion is that it is a big risk to think that the new generation will move 4K resolutions. I think that at least 2 generations of cards must pass before we can say that they work properly with 4K resolutions and can enjoy them at 100% of their total capacity. Of course, manufacturers must make people think about 4K already and they are naming it, referring to it to raise awareness and convince people of its virtues, all except economic ones, and incite people to change their graphics cards to be able to enjoy 4K, but the truth is that what is available today and the next generation do not move 4K decently yet.
Ruruloko, Xenso with the hydrocooper BIOS, the VRM temperature hardly rises at all and the performance does go up compared to the normal ones, that's why I recommended you to put it and you don't have to keep playing with the EVGA precision. -
anyway. At the price that 4k monitors are, there is more than enough time for hardware to advance enough to move to those resolutions with ease.
They will still take at least 2 years to have 4k monitors at "street" prices. Because it's no use having hardware that can move 4k smoothly if then for a 27" monitor you have to pay 2000€.
That's not a street price... and 4k at 27" for 500€ will take those two years... even more I would say... so calm down :troll::troll: -
My opinion is that it's venturing too far if we think that the new generation will handle 4K resolutions. I think that at least 2 more generations of cards must pass before we can say that they work properly with 4K resolutions and can enjoy them at 100% of their total capacity. Of course, manufacturers must make people think about 4K already and they are naming it, referring to it to raise awareness and convince people of its virtues, all except economic ones, and incite people to change their graphics cards in order to enjoy 4K, but the truth is that what we have today and the next generation still don't handle 4K decently yet.
Ruruloko, Xenso with the hydrocooper BIOS, the VRM temperature hardly rises at all and the performance does go up compared to the normal ones, that's why I recommended you to put it and you don't have to keep playing with the EVGA precision.I wasn't referring to one being able to handle 4K, I mean that they should defend themselves better, although everything is relative, a mid-range one may not defend itself better at high resolution than a high-end one from the previous generation, but comparing high-end ranges, it should handle three monitors or high resolution much better.
if we compare GF110 and GK110, the latter defends itself much better with high resolution, in any case, two GM104 should lose little to two GK110 and should cost quite less, depending on how Maxwell turns out, it could even perform better.There's still time for 4K because of the prices, but 3 monitors are more common or 2560x1600 and that's where it should be noticeable.
in the GM104 specifications I see things that don't add up, 320bits and 3/6GB of memory and they should be 384bits
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If but fjavi, how many of you have 3 monitors? very few people and the moment 4k becomes common there will also be more 4k than multiple monitors, for sure
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Yes but fjavi, how many of you have 3 monitors? Very few people and the moment 4k becomes common, there will also be more 4k than multiple monitors, for sure
They are not the majority but I know a lot more people with three monitors than with 4K, some people use three 1080p, others 1440p and some, the least, 1600p. In this same thread you have Ruruloko, Jotole, Xenxo_80, ELP3 also had it although he prefers his 1600p. I think I left out someone from the thread who also has 3 monitors. I don't know anyone with 4K and besides, if you have to play at 30fps it's not worth it, it's not just the price anymore.
I suppose that when K4 is more affordable, someone will set up three and the demand will always be increasing as new things come out.
Regards
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By the way, does anyone know how to see the temps of the VRMs on the TITAN/GTX780? The new GPU-Z says it supports it, but it's not true, and HWB doesn't either..and it's very important if you're going to use this bios mod..
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I've tried with Aida 64, Openhardware monitor and it doesn't work either. From what I've been able to see by searching on the topic, temps from the VRMs aren't monitored with Nvidia since the 5 series…..........:mad:
That would be best, a direct probe to them once opened when cleaning/putting the blocks of RL..... I'll leave it in the back of my mind, in case I ever do it when opening it to clean the blocks...
Regards..
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I've tried with Aida 64, Openhardware monitor and it still doesn't work. From what I've been able to see by searching on the topic, temp, of the VRMs with Nvidia from the 5 series onwards aren't monitored... :mad:
So the best thing would be a direct probe to them once opened when cleaning/putting the RL blocks... I'll leave it in the back of my mind, in case I ever do it when opening to clean the blocks...
Best regards..
Tomorrow I'll try to talk to Gustavo..he spoke well of me..;) and see what can be done about the topic..
Regards.
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My opinion is that it's a big risk to think that the new generation will handle 4K resolutions. I believe that at least 2 more generations of cards are needed before we can say that they work properly with 4K resolutions and can be enjoyed at 100% of their total capacity. Of course, manufacturers need to make people think about 4K now and are naming it, referring to it to raise awareness and get people excited about its virtues, all except the economic ones, and encourage people to change their graphics cards to enjoy 4K, but the truth is that what we have today and the next generation still don't handle 4K decently yet.
Ruruloko, Xenso with the hydrocooper BIOS, the VRM temperature hardly rises and the performance does go up compared to the normal ones, which is why I recommended you to put it in and you don't have to keep playing with the EVGA precision.For now, when the prices of 4K become feasible, someone will fall for it here. I'm thinking about getting a panoramic 21:9 monitor just for fun to see how it feels in games. There are many games that I only use one monitor for, especially when playing online, and for those circumstances, I would like to have something like that.
Regarding the BIOS you posted, I had them installed but the problem is that my GPUs, two of them, have an ASIC below 70% and they weren't stable for benchmarking, but not suitable for 24/7. Currently, I have them with the Tech-Inferno BIOS, which have the turbo boost deactivated and the voltage raised to 1,212 Mv.Tomorrow I'll try to talk to Gustavo..he spoke well of me..;) and see what can be done about the issue..
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ELP3, are you going to liquid cool it??? Have you tried overclocking the Titans and got the bug XD.
Don't worry, I'll speak well of you and he'll attend you as if you were Jotole, thanks to him I'm getting a lot of help with my Mod.
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Ruruloko, but have you tried the ones from evga hydrocooper? I doubt they won't hold up
ELp the temperatures of the VRMs you want to see them, in Aida or does it matter how you see them? it's that maybe I can get you a script so you can see them, that is on a small screen. -
Ruruloko, but have you tried the ones from evga hydrocooper? I doubt they won't hold up
ELp the temperatures of the VRMs you want to see them, in Aida or does it matter how you see them? it's that maybe I can get you a script so you can see them, that is on a small screen.I don't remember well which one I put on it, but if I remember or think I remember that you uploaded them to the thread a while ago which stayed at 1200 core.
I would appreciate it if you uploaded it again and for now I will try it again when I can return.
Best regards.
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With the release of the new Gtx 780 Ti on 7/11 for $699, I no longer want to build the Titan Sli
There is a drop in Gtx 770/780 that with 900€ I buy a Sli and it surpasses the Titan.
I will save that money for the next graphics card change since everything is going well with my current equipment.
I can tinker but I see a second Titan throwing €€€The techinferno bios for 24/7 in games is worth the change with a single titan
Thanks to everyone for your help!
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With the release of the new Gtx 780 Ti on 11/7 for $699, I've lost interest in building a Titan Sli
There's a drop in the price of Gtx 770/780, so for €900 I can buy a Sli and it will outperform the Titan.
I'll save that money for the next graphics card change, as everything is going well with my current setup.
I can handle the tinkering, but I see myself spending €€€ on a second Titan.The techinferno bios for 24/7 gaming is worth the change with a single Titan
Thanks to everyone for your help!
The truth is, it's a shame what Nvidia is doing, now they release the 780TI that practically surpasses or matches the Titan with a notable saving in price, but well, that's what there is and everyone who likes this world already knows it.
Regarding the bios, I would say that for a single Titan and I imagine you're at a resolution of 1920*1080, it's almost not feasible for you, now if you want to push the limits of your hardware like more than one and get that Fps or higher results in the Benchs, I would say do it. Another thing is the risk you take when flashing the bios, you can leave your gpu as a doormat, so be very careful.
Regards.
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The truth is that it is a shame what NVIDIA is doing, now they release the 780TI which practically surpasses or matches the Titan with a notable saving in terms of price, but well that's what there is and everyone who likes this world already knows it.
Regarding the bios I would say that for a single Titan and I imagine you are with a resolution of 1920*1080 it is almost not feasible for you, now if you want to push the limit of your hardware like more than one and get that FPS or result of the Benchs to be higher I would say do it. Another thing is the risk you submit yourself to when flashing the bios, you can leave your gpu as a doormat so be very careful.
Regards.
We already know that these of NVIDIA and computer science in 6 months is already dead. Like a car when you buy it is already worth 3000€ less minimum
Let's see if the market brings any surprises with discounts. We will be attentive
The resolution that I play is 6100x1080 (Mode corrected with Bezel) in Surround and the thing about doormat of almost 1000€ will not be worth it.Regards
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Ruruloko, but have you tried the ones from evga hydrocooper? I doubt they won't hold up
ELp the temperatures of the VRMs you want to see them, in Aida or does it matter how you see them? it's that maybe I can get you a script so you can see them, that is on a small screen.Well I join the request, if it can be. It would be good to have them controlled, my intention is to keep them at 1300, and I would like to have that controlled.
And of course as I don't plan to change them for a long time, when it becomes necessary due to game demands I will join some sister to the couple. I get rid of one because it lowers the resolution of the surround and with two it goes very well. But I know that someday I will need some more.
Thanks in advance
A greeting
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Ruruloko, but have you tried the ones from evga hydrocooper? I doubt they won't hold up
ELp the temperatures of the VRMs you want to see them, in Aida or does it matter how you see them? it's that maybe I can get you a script so you can see them, that is on a small screen.I don't care..the point is to see them..;)
However, I'm going to be without them for a week...they have already gone with Gustavo to put together a massive custom RL for my use.
Regards.
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We already know that these nvidia and computer stuff in 6 months is already dead. Like a car when you buy it is already worth €3000 less minimum
Let's see if the market brings any surprises with discounts. We'll be attentive
The resolution that I play is 6100x1080 (Corrected mode with Bezel) in Surround and the thing about a paperweight of almost €1000 is not worth it.Regards
I didn't know you had a surround….. I would put a twin in it but it's like you explained before it's not worth it. I would say sell it and if possible get yourself a pair of GTX 780, TI.
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