Battle of the titans "780 ti Vs 290x" first results.

[juanjojjjjjj]

In case the news is of interest or useful to any affected person who has the gtx780ti.
Nvidia blames Galaxy for the problems of its GeForce GTX 780 Ti | El Chapuzas Informático
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[Piratilla2007]

Damn, the 290s will be hot, but those models with so much OC on the 780 Ti, they literally burn your PCB! LOL

Besides, they comment that there are more affected models;

_So far, we only know the official information, but if we continue to echo the Chinese media, we know that in addition to the Galaxy assembler, Colorful, innovision, Asus, Sauter, Inno3D and Gigabyte are also affected, with Asus being the second brand to request the return of their graphics products.
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I don't know what's worse, that your graphics card is messed up because of the heat, or that the graphics card burns your entire PC xD. Luck that Nvidia makes some damn good and quality products…My god. Burning your PC won't happen, but messing up your motherboard almost for sure...and what a laugh...

[fjavi]

@Piratilla2007:

Damn, the 290s will be hot, but those models with so much OC on the 780 Ti, they literally burn your PCB!LOL

Besides, they comment that there are more affected models;

_So far, we only know the official information, but if we keep echoing the Chinese media, we know that in addition to the Galaxy assembler, Colorful, Innovision, Asus, Sauter, Inno3D and Gigabyte are also affected, with Asus being the second brand to request the return of their graphics products.
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I don't know what's worse, that your graphics card is messed up because of the heat, or that the graphics card burns your entire PC xD. Luck that Nvidia makes some damn good and quality products...My god. Your PC burning down won't happen, but messing up your motherboard almost certainly...and what a joke...

What do you want us to say that both are crap? well it's clear that both AMD and Nvidia have completely ignored the consumption issue and have released some abortions.

That Galaxy is at 1322 MHz, you have to be a psychopath to put those frequencies on a graphics card for sale to the public, the AMDs come so tight that they don't go up a damn thing and these come so loaded that even if they go up, these things can happen, so they go to the limit.

Now both manufacturers if they want something decent are going to have to dig deep into their pockets to put in quality components that are more expensive, and in the end they are still going to be safer than the Titan and the 780 which are not slouches either.

It's just that consumption mattered so much a while ago and now it doesn't seem to matter anymore, it doesn't matter what cards go for the mid-range consume like high-end ranges, there are no limits here.

[Piratilla2007]

Man, you don't have to say anything to me Fjavi, since I'm not going to buy either the 290x or the 780 ti, but when Nvidia does something wrong, you can also comment/opine, right?

PD; With this news, I wouldn't risk putting more voltage or having an extreme OC to play...

Best regards.

[fjavi]

@Piratilla2007:

Man, you don't have to tell me anything about my Fjavi, since I'm not going to buy either the 290x or the 780 ti, but when Nvidia does something wrong, we can also comment/opine, right?

I admit that if the 780Ti explodes it's a piece of crap, I say it clearly but it's annoying that you can't say it when AMD lowers frequencies or gets to 94º in winter, that's why I think they're all a piece of crap.

I criticized the 480s harshly and none exploded, they never lowered frequencies, on the contrary, you could do a good OC with them, that's why I say call everything by its name, if it's a piece of crap it doesn't matter if it's Nvidia or AMD, you have to see if these Nvidias are custom or reference, if it happens to all of them then they will have to withdraw them and make them right or not make them, but AMD also has a big problem when it gets hotter.

Besides, I don't think the custom ones will give good results in CF, I mean that unless the 20nm come out soon I don't want any of these new cards, because they come loaded.

Of course you can opine but we all opine, why do some opinions (news) fly across the net while others are sweetened, excused, justified, when here none have justification.

It's that if one's card breaks and they put a driver in recently, the news "driver burns graphics" spreads like wildfire, but if the others have microstuttering, vsync doesn't work, CF doesn't work with more than two cards, not a peep is said, that's why it's clear what there's more intention to disseminate.

[Piratilla2007]

@fjavi:

I admit that if the 780Ti explodes it's a piece of crap, I say it clearly but it's annoying that you can't say when AMD lowers frequencies or gets to 94º in winter, that's why I think they're all a piece of crap.

I criticized the 480s harshly and none exploded, they never lowered frequencies, on the contrary you could do a good OC with them, that's why I say call everything by its name, if it's a piece of crap it doesn't matter if it's made by Nvidia or AMD, you have to see if these Nvidias are custom or reference, if it happens to all of them then they will have to withdraw them and make them right or not make them, but AMD also has a big problem when it gets hotter.

Besides, I don't think the custom ones will perform well in CF, I mean that unless the 20nm come out soon I don't want any of these new cards, because they come loaded.

Of course you can have an opinion but we all have one, why do some opinions (news) fly across the net while others are sweetened, excused, justified, when here none have justification.

In ELPE's thread there has been a lot of discussion and criticism about that aspect you mention about the 290x, and I think the same. That the 290x are a piece of crap. But that a card like the 780 ti with OC, burns your PCB, with the card stopping working, and on top of that frying your motherboard… Well I don't know what's worse.. Let's hope they are isolated cases, because if not I'll have a problem with both companies... In the end they will compete to see who is the first to burn the GPU ;D

[fjavi]

@Piratilla2007:

In the ELPE thread, there has been a lot of discussion and criticism about the aspect you mention of the 290x, and I agree. The 290x is a piece of crap. But a graphics card like the 780 ti with OC, where the PCB burns, the graphics card stops working, and on top of that, it messes up the motherboard... I don't know what's worse.. Let's hope these are isolated cases, because if not, I'll have a problem with both companies... In the end, they'll compete to see who's the first to burn the GPU ;D

I usually wait to see in which models it happens. If the one that explodes is a Galaxy Hof and comes to 1322 MHz, to be honest, I'm not too surprised, because putting that chip and that frequency already seems risky to me. But if it happens to all of them, even the reference ones, it's because they messed it up. Now they'll have to do something to prevent that from happening or they'll get tons of lawsuits. And rightly so.

What's most annoying is that in the end, they'll cut off our OC more and we'll lose, just like with Intel and Kepler, and they'll keep cutting it more and more.

[Handrox]

Mas claro, agua….

"Finally it's official what we announced yesterday, yes, there are problems with some GeForce GTX 780 Ti graphics cards, although Nvidia has blamed the graphics assembler Galaxy, which blames itself for making an unauthorized design reference change that has negatively impacted 55 of its graphics cards, claiming that no one else has been affected. A problem that could be due to the Galaxy GTX 780 Ti HOF, which reaches the impressive figures of 1322 MHz for the GPU and 7600 MHz for the memories, a pretty impressive performance."

;D

[fjavi]

@Handrox:

Mas claro, agua….

"Finally it's official what we announced yesterday, yes, there are problems with some GeForce GTX 780 Ti graphics models, although Nvidia has blamed the Galaxy graphics assembler, which blames for making an unauthorized reference change in the design that has negatively impacted 55 of its graphics cards, claiming that no one else has been affected. A problem that could be due to the Galaxy GTX 780 Ti HOF, which reaches the impressive figures of 1322 MHz for the GPU and 7600 MHz for the memories, a quite impressive performance."

;D

But they say there are more brands, what should be seen is if it happens to the reference ones, the 590 was reference and the failure was Nvidia's here we have to see if it happened with some customized ones.
because it could be due to some assembler, it has only happened in China and it is quite strange because here they are giving them quite a hard time, with bios voltage increase or power target, that is, it is strange that none of those with bios to more voltage and very high power target have not exploded, besides quite high frequencies.

[Handrox]

@fjavi:

But they say there are more brands, what should be seen is if it happens to the reference ones, the 590 was a reference and the failure was from Nvidia here it remains to be seen if it happened with some customized ones.
because it could be because of some assembler, it has only happened in China and it is quite rare because here they are giving them quite a hard time, with bios voltage increase or power target, that is, it is strange that none of those with bios to more voltage and power target very raised have not exploded, in addition to quite high frequencies.

Nvidia barely acknowledges the cases of Galaxy….

[fjavi]

@Handrox:

Nvidia barely recognizes Galaxy cases….

I say this because I had read about other brands, although these are news that are given here by the forums, I don't know how much is true, if they were so explosive the one that ELP3 had must have also exploded, I tried to pass some 3dmark 13 in extreme at almost 1400 MHz and memory at 8000, that one had all the chances if it had been bad.

I'm just very incredulous, I know that some must have exploded but if they are Galaxy ones and come with those frequencies, besides maybe they have overclocked them even more, it's normal that it ends up exploding, what less than wanting to go up 100 MHz.
The one who buys one of those cards surely wants to overclock it, but let's say that Galaxy must be wrong to put that frequency on a card, it's ridiculous.

[Piratilla2007]

Well according to Nvidia it's not because of the OC, it's because of this;

NVIDIA responds to allegations of design flaw in its GeForce GTX 780 Ti "GK110-B" - CHW

Time will tell..

[Jexux]

If this TI version really means "Terminate Incendiated".

A shame how my eVGA 780 SC ACX has been devalued, but with how well it's going, I think I'll stick with this graphics card for a while. I haven't had anything quieter than this and with the good OC margin.

[ELP3]

They have already arrived!!! They are already here!! My TITAN DestroysTI.. hehe As always with many leaks problems.. but well, solved.. EVGA TITAN SC 1335MHZ: Then if that, I set it to 1400MHZ…;D Best regards.

[fjavi]

@Jexux:

If this TI version really means "Ends Burned".

A shame how my eVGA 780 SC ACX has been devalued, but with how well it's running, I think I'll stick with this graphics card for a while. I haven't had anything quieter than this and with the good OC margin.

The important thing is that you have a good graphics card, cool to the touch and quiet, plus now it's not so expensive, as for the Ti, well if some have come out faulty what surprises me is that they don't blow up the ones from overclocked.net or ELP3 with the stick they're giving them, if they were like the 590 there would already have to be many cases around the world.

The network is going very fast to say the Ti problem but very slow to say the black screens and crashes of the R9-290x, if that was quick even to criticize the adaptive vsync when they had just put it into the driver, but to say that the normal vsync doesn't work since the catalyst nothing.

We should be informed quickly for whatever the manufacturer is, that's why I end up not believing what is said until I see a case of people I know, anyway let's see if with the bad publicity these Ti prices go down.

regards

@ELP3:

They have arrived!!!

They are here!!

My TITAN DestroysTI.. hehe

As always with many leak problems..but well, solved..

EVGA TITAN SC 1335MHZ:

Then if that, I take it to 1400MHZ…;D

Regards.

Don't get too excited there are few Titans left, because in the end the Titan will continue to be the best Nvidia card.

Although something strange happens with the Ti for the performance with OC not to be noticed so much, they should perform a little better at the same clock, it seems that something has been capped because it's strange.

regards

[ConanR]

Hello!

My first post on hardlimit

I leave you my result in 3dmark11 and the ti at 1323/1945 (the memos still go up quite a bit more, the core without being able to increase voltages I think will go up little more)

Greetings!

[ELP3]

@ConanR:

Buenas!

Mi primer post en hardlimit

Os dejo mi resultado en el 3dmark11 y la ti a 1323/1945 (las memos aún suben bastante más, el core sin poder subir voltajes creo que poco más subirá)

Saludos!

En mi opinión,a pesar de ser un resultado BRUTAL para no poder subir mas de 1,21V a la 780Ti.No te dá tan buen escalado como la TITAN precisamente por falta de voltaje estable.

A 1323MHZ debería dar mas que esos 6130 puntos de Gráficos,que es realmente lo importante pues la suma de todo lo hace el 6 cores..

No obstante,es un resultado genial,para ser una 780TI que ahora mismo está limitada en estos temas..por eso entre otros motivos sigo prefieriendo TITAN ahora mismo.

Saludos

[ConanR]

@ELP3:

In my opinion, despite being a BRUTAL result for not being able to go above 1.21V on the 780Ti.No it gives you as good a scaling as the TITAN precisely because of the lack of stable voltage.

At 1323MHZ it should give more than those 6130 points in Graphics, which is really what matters because the sum of everything is what the 6 cores do..

Nevertheless, it is a great result, for being a 780TI that is currently limited in these aspects.. that is one of the reasons why I still prefer the TITAN right now.

Regards

Yes, the truth is that it should give something more, but well, to have an asic of 72.4% it goes up pretty well, like yours of 70%, I would like to see one with an asic of 85 or higher to see how it goes with stock voltages...

I already have the second one ordered, this time I will try my luck with an EVGA SC, the one I have now is Gigabyte and from what I have seen most of the gigas (not to say all so far) do not go above 77% asic, besides the fact that it seems that EVGA is not affected by the defective batches that are mentioned above.

[Handrox]

DICE Rep states "Mantle is awesome, but it will burn AMD's cards up due to the horrible manufacturing. We are having issues with 'em dying."

[ELP3]

Well... you can tell when the ASICs are there...

THIS SLI MASTER I've managed to get... IS AMAZING

1400MHZ in SLI!!! from TITAN:

Honestly... impressive.

And to think that before, I had to put even more voltage, to do 1300MHZ on a single one that was 73% ASIC...

Playing around with 4 WAY;

Xtreme 3D Mark 11:

P.D.1375v is not really what was being applied, what happened is that I messed around with the zaru and it was applied to one of them. I was using 1,29V for the good ones and 1,335 for the less good ones.

Firestrike X:

Best regards.