Unfortunately, there is nothing less reliable than the "eyeball".
If, in its day, with the old font, you had passed a benchmark and, with the new font, you were to do it again, then we would have something reliable to work with.
If you can set up the old one, set it up and pass a benchmark, and then pass the same one at the same level but with the new font.

If there are notable discrepancies in favor of the old one, we will already have a reliable basis on which to discuss. But a priori, my computer does not run faster by having one font or another, in any case quite the opposite.
;D

@Obione:

If the power supply can end up in a gaming rig I would get an Enermax NAXN or a Silverstone Essential 500W at xtremmedia. You get 400W at 12V and acceptable quality for 40 euros.

+1 if you don't want to spend a lot of money, those power supplies are fine. Regarding the B-Move 600W if there is no other option, you can buy it and it will last with a low-end graphics card, but better one of the ones the fellow mentions.

@Patagonico:

Exactly, HDMI 2.0 for the TV although the Beta 340.43 drivers remove the 30HZ limitation for 4K and can use 60 Hz I think the ideal thing is to always have something that works natively and connect the monitor via DisplayPort.-

the rumors are GTX 880 $499 (supposedly 8GB) more feasible that it is the 4GB
the GTX 870 $399 and the GTX 860 $299.

What makes me upgrade is the same thing that happened to me with the Titan at its time that practically doubled its price afterwards, it's the economic fluctuations of my country where everything goes up in price and restrictions on imported products.-

As the saying goes, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.-

Regards.-

These say they will cost a little less and talk about September, that 880 shouldn't cost more to manufacture than a 4GB 770, the 870 could be better, although they talk about versions of 4 and 8 GB, I don't think they will release the 8GB ones, if they do it will be up to the partners, I doubt Nvidia with a 256-bit bus.
http://videocardz.com/51117/exclusive-nvidia-geforce-gtx-880-released-september

To me that price they say if it fits me more and I think it's even expensive, but we have to see how much it yields.

regards

Well, it's a matter of demands and perceptions. With the HD5670 I felt it was enough but I wanted something more, and the GTX750 is quite more (practically triple the performance). I didn't raid, I just did Tol Barad a few times and where I do a lot is in BGs, but lowering details, distances, etc... I played perfectly at 1920x1080.

For now I haven't tried WoW, only F1 2013 and Planet Side 2, both little more than a while. Now with the change of working hours and the holidays is when I'll give them more caña.

As for the model I have already been able to check that the Gigabyte's cooling is perfect, it has been a good choice.

Greetings!

Man, a 7950 with only one fan... well, you don't have to be an expert to see what's going to happen.
The waterblock thing is also a pain because for that particular model it's very difficult to find something.
So I think you could look for cards of that model that don't work to take advantage of the fan, it will be much cheaper, you can replace the casing that you had to touch up... that is, get rid of that graphics card as soon as you can.

Edit: While you're at it, you can try getting a Black Edition that doesn't work and try to mount the casing with a double fan.

The power supply is Antec vp450...
It never fell short and now in x4 with 2 sata of a tera dvd burner..pci network card memory card reader and also usb sound card that i connected while playing...
The hd 7850 has a tdp of 130 w and that vga they told me that my power supply can handle with my current pc...
The r9 270 already has tda of 150w and i don't know if it will be supported...
And the cooler yes or yes i will need because it gets cold and it's definitely a heater...
So if it supports the hd 7850 i'll go for that then for an fx and Mother with chip 970 for a better oc...
I mean i'm looking for more graphic performance but i can't do everything at once or it's 1st the hd 7850 and then the fx 6350 or vice versa...
I forgot ahira i put an 80 gb disk testing win 7 x64 so i have 3 sata playing metro last light and it still handles very well it didn't restart or anything and it stayed like phenom x4 at 3.4 Ghz more oc i couldn't because the blue screen would pop up...

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@Boremc:

Although the shappire is the dual x, do you prefer the gigabyte??

The Gigabyte triple fan system is better than the Sapphire Dual-X. Also, as a personal experience, I have had a Gigabyte GTX680 with that cooler without any problems and right now I have three 7950 DualX from Sapphire and 1 fan is failing in all three.

@chepilepsiaaa:

Nobody knows anything that could improve the fps..? :$

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Monitor the graphics load to see if it goes to 100%, you can even increase the CPU to see if you gain anything, because you say CPU-dependent games, that's the first thing I would check, that the graphics is working at full capacity, if in games like BTF4 or Crysis 3 the graphics is not working at full load, something is slowing it down.

Anyway, you won't be able to put much SSAA on Crysis 3, maybe with 2X it runs well, but that game can't have many of those filters with a single GPU.

regards

That's what I usually do, adjust SpeedFan with winter lows and summer highs 60/80 CPU/GPU. I bought the GTX when the heat eased up last year. We'll see how it turns out with the heatwave, it will be time to decide on curves, however I would like to look at how the flash thing works first in case I can tweak it.

You don't have the appropriate card, and it doesn't seem like a good choice because it's a modest range with little VRAM. When it falls short, you look at one of the new generation, the 750 Ti is a preview of the 800 series, it has very low consumption. An 860 could be a very interesting purchase.

Editing: Hostias Pedrín, I've been messing around on the web here and there, I don't know why I thought you had a 550 Ti. SLI is for Nvidia and here we're talking about ATIs :ugly:

@amd125:

Using a Dual card for physics is a waste. I think, I might be wrong, that you will only use one core for physics, the other will scratch its belly. To that you have to add that it is a card that consumes its own, I don't know if your source could get into trouble. Really there are few games that use physics.

If you need physics, I would look to sell it and buy a more basic nvidia for physics. I really know that at its time it was very good and expensive, today despite not having DX 11 it can handle many games at good quality, but it is not good to be romantic or nostalgic when talking about hardware, and more with products that depreciate so much. So either you sell it, or back in the drawer again, but nothing of using it for physics. It may seem like harsh advice but it is my point of view, make a profit or keep it as a back up in case your card fails.

The 580 GTX is still a good card but you can also sell both and if you get a good price, buy something more modern, that yields similar or a little more than the 580 GTX but with lower consumption.

A GTX 750 or 750 Ti, would be the ideal cards for physics, for low consumption and great performance in these tasks.

Putting the GTX 295 for physics, is killing flies with cannons, and an extra expense in electricity inappropriate for what is achieved.

Sorry mare mia Micro: A8 3850 2.9 mhz

I lost it

@amd125:

The Q6600 from the factory may be slightly inferior to the Q8300, but what's interesting about the 6600 is that it has a 266 Bus and a multiplier of 9. In this micro, if it comes out a little decent you put an FSB of 400 with a multiplier of 8 and you have it at 3200. I'm talking about the 6600 "Go" revision because the first "B3" revision were hotter and went up less.

The problem with the Q8300 is the "low" multiplier of 7.5 with a bus of 333. This makes that with a bunch of DDR 2 800 memory the Q6600 you put it at 3200 and the Q8300 only gives you an overclock of 3000.

And if you have better memory, or the micro comes out good, you can put the 6600 at 3400 (some have it at 3600 but with very good cooling and also with a very high voltage in general).

My 6600 micro has the worst VID that exists 1.325, that is, it needs a lot of voltage to go up, and even so I have it at 3200… ;D If it were good, it would go up more. That's the difference with the 775 platform and the Bus. In general, for two similar micros in frequency, for overclocking it's more interesting the one that has the highest multiplier and the lowest bus. In both things the 6600 surpasses the 8300.

That's right, both micros are very similar from stock, but to tell you well about the Q6600 it's enough to say that it's a micro that came out in early 2007... there's nothing, it's been 7 years, and to this day accompanied by a good graphics card it can still move most games, and at the office level, it still performs very well.

And to push it further, there are Xeon processors socket 771 that are compatible with 775 boards, depending on the chipset, and by fixing the pins on the micro and in the board's Bios, you admit these processors. I won't expand but these micros are selected to work in servers, so they are usually of higher quality than the normal 775, reaching some speeds of 4000... but I don't want to confuse you more than I would extend too much :wall: These micros on Ebay UK especially and USA are found at a low price, and I know more than one from other forums that for 40-50€ they have picked up a micro that they have put at 4000 with DDR3 memory and I can assure you that a Quadcore micro at 4000 even being old, performs like a champion.

To finish, I've tried to be clear in the explanation although brevity is not my thing. If you understood me well, otherwise, read some overclocking guide that will always be good the knowledge acquired.

Basic overclocking guide - HardLimit

Thanks, don't worry.. you can expand as much as you want! Well, I had no idea about the 771, I didn't know that. I'm going to read the guide you mentioned. Yes, mine doesn't go beyond 3.0 Ghz, and the ram is from 800 to 960, and if I put it at 1021 the q8300 stays at 2, 5 Ghz and doesn't go up from there… I get the impression that it moves slower if I increase the ram than if I increase the core. Besides, I think the ram breaks much easier than the core so I've left it at 20% and auto and it stays at 3.0 and 960 ram. I was trying to increase the core to 3.0 and the ram to 1020 (a little more than 960) but I'm not sure if it can be done, there are some voltages that the bios lets you touch but I have to read first.

Even so, it even seems to me that the pc moved faster with the E8400 increased to 3.6 Ghz than with the Q8300 increased to 3.0 Ghz both with the ram at 960. Could it be because the E has 6M and the Q only 4M cache?

The cache thing also has me confused, it's supposed to be a kind of buffer?

Thanks, I'm going to read the guide.

Best regards!

I'm not saying that the approach doesn't have some logic: the card works and works well. But unfortunately it has its limitations and mainly, and depending on the model, they are the dissipation and the quality of the components.
Let's look at it from the following point of view: Can you overclock it enough to put it to compete with something more current than a gtx 660? Without breaking it within ten minutes, no.
The best way to take advantage of somewhat outdated GPUs is to lower the graphic quality, try something more extreme that might work for a forum point, but at the cost of the card itself in a not very long term.

Now that I remember, I still have an S3 trio that works… ;D

Thank you very much for the advice, the truth is that I think it would also be good for me to wait for the new generation, which will have a better structure.

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For a little more you get a 270X: http://xtremmedia.com/Gigabyte_Radeon_R9_270X_2GB_GDDR5.html Watch the size, check that it fits lengthwise in your tower. If it doesn't fit (they are almost 30cms.) the Asus is just over 27cms. You could overclock the micro, it will let you stretch at least the turbo and the micro won't even notice although, it would be good to have a dedicated cooler, over 20€ you have a Raijintek.

@Fassou:

These guys at nVIDIA, always making headlines to keep the stock high

They release a new chip, okay, the 3D memory thing (from Samsung) is also okay, but the nvlink, sounds like a tired promise, like when you hear the misses wishing for world peace :happygirl

I still hope for some improvement in the "external" connections for graphics cards, a topic we had already discussed in 2007 in this post.

Salu2!

I don't think it's that strange, on one hand they increase bandwidth with that type of memory and on the other they use the Nvlink for those who want to put 4 or 5 cards, it seems that's where they're heading.

It could also be for GPGPU, to make better use of all the cards, graphics are advancing much more than processors and they have to do something to make the most of a 5waySLI.
It doesn't affect me because I don't plan to put 4 or 5 cards, but maybe people who can put them could be better off, better use of the 5.

although let's hope they don't want to release it and have to buy it separately, it would have to come with the motherboard

saludos

Well, now I come along and say that the one you have, for the simple fact of having 512 MB of VRAM, will allow you to run games that cannot run with less memory (X3: Terran Conflict for example, will not install if you do not have at least 512 MB of VRAM.)
Despite having the same engine as the previous installment (X3 Reunion which I played with my now defunct RX9800 with 128MB) it did not allow me to even install it.
But anyway, if you say that yours is not working well, then you have no other choice. :smirk: