Test of the Real Nvidia Gtx Titan, single-sli-tri Sli, 4 WAY SLI
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Let no one take offense at what I am about to say!! Especially ELP3, but… what's the point of being on the list of the "best" when all ELP3 has done is "crash" the hardware. For example, I see what Kingpin has done as more meritorious if it's true that he hard modded it, with modified drivers, LN2, etc., and you keep criticizing him as if what he has done is wrong.
The fun of benchmarking (it used to be like this) was modifying software and hardware to achieve scores that normal people couldn't achieve. I remember the Pentium era when with a pencil, you would modify the board to get that extra voltage to increase frequencies...
I'm not saying all this to stir up trouble or anything, but sometimes I think that essence of the overclocker-bencher has been lost, since now there are many shortcuts to achieve high OCs, and you don't tinker as much with how to modify a hard, even knowing that you will probably fry it.
By the way, I'm so envious of you ELP3! You could already have given me one! I'll probably get either an ASUS or a Gigabite next week, and I'll have to save some time to get another one for SLI...
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Let no one be offended by what I am going to say!! Especially ELP3, but… what's the point of being on the list of the "best" when all ELP3 has done is "overclock" the hardware. For example, I see what Kingpin has done as more meritorious if it's as you say, that he hardmodded it, with modified drivers, LN2, etc., and you keep criticizing him as if what he has done is wrong.
The fun of benchmarking (it used to be like that) was modifying software and hardware to achieve scores that normal people couldn't achieve. I remember the Pentium era when with a pencil, you would modify the board to get that extra voltage to increase frequencies...
I'm not saying all this to stir up trouble or anything, but sometimes I think that essence of overclocker-bencher has been lost, since now there are many shortcuts to achieve high OCs, and you don't tinker as much with how to modify a hard, even knowing that you're probably going to fry it.
By the way, I'm so envious of you ELP3! You could just give me one! I'll probably get an ASUS or a Gigabyte next week, and I'll have to save some time to get another one for SLI...
Well, as a synthetic benchmarker, hehe, I can tell you that, I suppose like Elp3, you're tweaking and tweaking things until you get the drivers that work best with that card, that the parameters are correct, that the extra fans cool where they need to, that the CPU and RAM are balanced, etc, etc, etc, and then some nitrogen guy comes along and puts the micro or the card or both, as is the case, with nitrogen and bam!! world record!!, hehe, it's a bit of a hump, I benchmark almost every day and I stay at more or less mediocre scores since there comes a point where you can't advance because what's above you is already nitrogen, so the comparison is a bit unbalanced and unfair, as I say I understand that Elp3 has adjusted it as much as possible so that everything runs as smoothly as possible and there it is, not just overclocking and that's it….. not to mention, in 3dmark11 with a 670 (When I had them) I ended up in second place, very close to first, I know that now if I got one I would be first, but in that ranking precisely there is no one with nitrogen, as soon as someone with nitrogen shows up with a 670, water and air are over, hehe, that's why I don't feel like getting a 670 to benchmark, so I see Elp3's achievement as a big deal!!
Regards!!
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But the fact that you use LN2 is already a merit, because here in my city, you have to have a license and attend classes just to be able to use it and get it. Then (I assume because I have never done OC with LN2) you have to set up a container that refrigerates the plate/processor, and well, the OC will work the same as one that uses water or air, it is a matter of playing around until you get the maximum potential of the processor without having the temperature limit.
I don't know, I don't want to take away the merit from ELP3's score, but rather defend a bit what kingpin has achieved. It's annoying that he has a higher score for using LN2, so fight to get that position using the same thing!
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Let's see.. I think many don't know who Kingpin or Shamino or a long etc... and who the rest of us are. Kingpin is a professional overclocker, highly reputed and in this case works for EVGA. He earns a lot of money with it, and obviously has knowledge and innate talent as well as the means. I, on the other hand, am a home user with very good equipment, who tries to get the most out of it within reasonable parameters and with the means I have available. Kingpin, for example, for that test, may have had at his disposal like 30 or 40 processors chosen and he selected the best of those. EVGA has put just as many boards with specific parameters and protection measures nullified and on top of that an arsenal of TITANs with selected chips and he has again chosen the ones that gave him the best results. To this we must add that as he doesn't pay anything, he does the volt-mods for free because they don't have to worry if they break, not like me, which has cost me 1000€ each graphic and I have to pamper it.. and if we also consider that even the OC program, the EVGA precison, has been modified for the occasion and tons of LN2, which as is well known, almost everyone has at home.. then I think everything is said. Each one has their merit, he is paid to do what he has done. That is to beat all existing records, with his good doing and with unlimited means... And I, with stratospheric hardware, but after all, for personal use, I can get in there, with everything in stock dissipation, without voltages and tuning as much as possible, but always with margin so that all the components that are in their original state remain perfect after the bench, because they are mine and I want to keep them to play which is basically what I want the team for. Having said that, thank you all.. and yes, it is very possible that anyone with a team of my characteristics and a minimum of knowledge, would also be in that ranking. Regards. -
But the fact that you're using LN2 is already a merit, because here in my city, you have to have a license and attend classes just to be able to use it and get it. Then (I assume because I've never done OC with LN2) you have to set up a container that cools the plate/processor, and well, the OC will work the same as one that uses water or air, it's about playing around until you get the maximum potential of the processor without having the temperature limit.
I don't know, I don't want to take away the merit from ELP3's score, but rather defend a bit what kingpin has achieved. It's annoying that he has a higher score for using LN2, so fight to get that position using the same thing!
It's clear that kimgpin or Shamino are where they are for a reason, for a company to allow you to do that is because they have stood out with it in every way, people who don't know don't support them a multinational.
But this is like everything, even motorcycle racing, only the official drivers of the most powerful teams aspire to win, the others have to fight every race to get a podium since their material is inferior, the money that the team or sponsor has influences a lot, it's similar here.
I don't criticize kingpin, I think that if EVGA supports him it's because he understands a lot, but doing it with your hardware without support and also not wanting to break anything, because it's very expensive, also has merit, it's not just about plugging in and being done.
regards
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Of course, my intention was not to take away from the ELP3 score (after all, I have not seen the work behind that score either), but to defend a bit the position of kingpin, which some of you have jumped to as if I had cheated.
It is clear that if you do not have a resource source behind (sponsors), it is difficult to get extreme scores, but this is like with online games (LoL, Starcraft, etc.) where sponsors pay worker salaries to players, so they spend the day playing, or Intel-AMD-Nvidia, to improve their R&D in their products.
In summary, do not get angry or take it badly, I just wanted to be a bit sincere and criticize a little, hehe.
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No se, no quiero quitar merito a la puntuación de ELP3, sino defender un poco lo que kingpin ha conseguido.
Son puntos de vista obviamente, yo creo que nadie critica, solo se comenta que el escalon de "recursos" es muy grande y meritorio, lo de kingpin tambien es meritorio, pero no es lo mismo, es como si Elp3 se compra una moto y se pone a correr en circuito con los profesionales y queda segundo, pues es meritorio, obviamente el mejor es el que gana, por que sabe correr y tiene la mejor moto
@Lugal:Que jode que tenga mas puntuación por usar LN2, entonces lucha por conseguir ese puesto usando lo mismo!
Yo actualmente estoy 6º a nivel mundial de 17250 registrados en no profesional(Entusiasta) en hwbot, no puedes usar nitrogeno ni sistemas de enfriamiento externos mas que el agua y aire. No puedo ni quiero meterme en esa liga que ya es para gente que sabe, no me "jode", solo que cuando en una grafica consigo 20 puntos y miro para arriba y veo l2n pues no veo justo que yo compita con ellos, por que no tengo ninguna posibilidad, pero bueno esto es otra pelicula, jejeje
En resumen, no os enfadéis ni os lo toméis mal, solo quería ser un poco sincero y criticar un poquito, jeje.
No creo que nadie se enfade por una opinion hecha desde el respeto, pero dime, cuanto te ha pagado kingpin para que lo defiendas aqui??, dime, dime, cuanto?, ;D
Una abrazo!!!
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Haha, I wish I had paid, I would have enough for the second Titan, hehe, in fact, until I saw the list that ELP3 posted, I didn't even know about its existence.
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! @ELP3:
! > Let's see..I think many don't know who Kingpin or Shamino or a long etc...and who the rest of us are.Kinping is a professional overclocker, highly reputed and in this case works for EVGA. He earns a lot of money with it, and obviously has knowledge and innate talent as well as the means.
I, am a home user, with very good equipment, who tries to get the most out of it within reasonable parameters and with the means I have available.
Kinping for example for that test, may have had at his disposal like 30 or 40 selected processors and has selected the best of those. EVGA has put just as many boards with specific parameters and protection measures nullified and on top of that an arsenal of TITAN with selected chips and he has again chosen the ones that gave him the best results. To this we must add, that as he pays nothing, he does the volt-mods for free because they don't have to worry if they break, not like me, which has cost me 1000€ each graphic and I have to pamper it..and if we also put that even the OC program, the EVGA precision, has been modified for the occasion and tons of LN2, which as is well known, almost everyone has at home..then I think it's all said.
Each one has their merit, he is paid to do what he has done. That is to beat all existing records, with his good doing and with unlimited means...
And I, with stratospheric hardware, but after all, for personal use, I can get in there, with everything in stock dissipation, without voltages and tuning as much as possible, but always with margin so that all components that are in their original state remain perfect after the bench, because they are mine and I want to keep them to play which is basically what I want the team for.
Having said that, thank you all..and yes, it is very possible that anyone with a team of my characteristics and a minimum of knowledge, would also be in that ranking.
Regards.
!My most sincere respects for those words and congratulations on the Achievement, greetings crack.
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Curious about that 3DMark ranking, in monoGPU there's a GTX680 and GTX670 above the Titan from K|NGP|N, is that normal? :ugly: (in fact, his is in the tenth position behind other Titans) -
Curious about that 3DMark ranking, in monoGPU there's a GTX680 and GTX670 above the Titan from K|NGP|N, is that normal? :ugly: (in fact his is in the tenth position behind other Titans)
It's normal, he hasn't pushed that Titan much, for now he's first, but that will give much more when other nitrogen users start messing with Titans with good micros and good manners, then we'll see a nice fight of equals again and we'll see who comes out on top, just saying in 3dmark11 he's pushed a score with a 3930k to 5500, that's good, but when there are people like the second ranked with a 3770k to 6400 have a Titan with nitrogen we'll see where he stands, remember the second is with a 7970, that's why it's not surprising that in some places with more modest graphics he gets beaten, but boy when he gets his act together he'll give more of himself too, no doubt about that.
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Curious about that 3DMark ranking, in monoGPU there's a GTX680 and GTX670 above the Titan from K|NGP|N, is that normal? :ugly: (in fact, his is in the tenth position behind other Titans)
That one from Kingpin is a 680, it's not the Titan although I see those scores as very strange, first because I think that Kingpin set that 680 to 2Ghz, maybe they haven't put the Titans yet for Ln2, I'm talking about one that is true that those 680 and 670 are ahead of some Titans, even ahead of the 680 that I think he set to 2Ghz, although I don't know if the 2Ghz was an extreme pass or just Performance.
To me those scores seem strange, 3dmark used to be very influenced by the equipment or processor and sometimes they go crazy and give a high score or a low score, but in extreme a 680 shouldn't beat a Titan in 3dmark11, I don't like those tests that are getting shorter and shorter and that influence many things for the final score.
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It is normal, he has not put much effort into that Titan
Well, about not putting much effort in, I don't know what to tell you, they are all at 575 core (according to the page) except his which is at 705, with more micro than many above. There is some problem with those scores.
Edit: Okay it seems to be a driver issue, they are all with 9.18.13.1409 and he on the single GPU has 9.18.13.623.
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Hello ELP3:
How are you? I hope and wish you are well…......
I posted in another branch and I realize that this one is the one for results / tests and so on.
At a glance, is this Titan better than the Teslas for Distributed Computing? Or even better than the GTX 680 / GTX 690?
In price, I already told you that yes, because the last Tesla I bought is C 2075 :wall::wall::wall::wall:
Although they have already responded to me and I am grateful, I would like to ask for your opinion.
A hug.
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OT: Geltops, in which distributed computing project are you having Tesla work?
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OT: Geltops, en qué proyecto de computación distribuida tienes trabajando la Tesla?
Now I have it in Primegrip as well as all the GTX 580s.
Regards.
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In which team are you? I can't find you individually. It's to see how many credits your machines process (if you don't have them hidden).
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Hello, I want to join the club. I am eager to get a Titan, but I would like to get a hydrocopper.
ELP3 Thanks for posting your results and opinions. Here I think there are many of us who follow you.
It's a pleasure to read this post, from where I come it's for suicide. What a bunch of people. But thanks to a fellow member I was able to find this one and join it.A strong greeting to all.
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Here is a Tool to Tweak your Titans: KGB - Kepler BIOS Editor/Unlocker - Page 16Page 16 and page 17 of the best.
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Hello ELP3:
How are you? I hope and wish you are well…......
I posted in another branch and I realize that this is the one for results / tests and so on.
At a glance, is this Titan better than Teslas for Distributed Computing? Or even better than GTX 680 / GTX 690?
In price, I already told you that yes, because the last Tesla I bought is C 2075 :wall::wall::wall::wall:
Although they already answered me and I am grateful, I would like to ask for your opinion.
Best regards.
Here we go…trying.
I tell you the same thing as always geltops, I don't have a clue about distributed computing, and I haven't tested them in that. In principle, they should be very good, because they have the same chip as the Tesla K20X, NOTE, same chip, not the same drivers or fully active for it. As you can imagine, Nvidia is not going to stop selling Teslas at 6000€ to sell TITAN at 1000€...they must have made some difference/castration. What you can do is leave them for cuda exclusively like a Tesla, activating and deactivating single and double precision.
Best regards.
Here you have a tool to tune your Titans: KGB - Kepler BIOS Editor/Unlocker - Page 16
Page 16 and page 17 are the best.
Thanks Ximi..but the truth is that I'm a bit lost and as there are so many links, I don't know which one is really the editor…I'm dense this afternoon..
Best regards.
