Test of the Real Nvidia Gtx Titan, single-sli-tri Sli, 4 WAY SLI
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ELP3, this is the editor : Dropbox - kgb_0.6.2.zip - Simplify your life
You already know how to use it, right?
I used it with my GTX 680 and it's a blast.
C:\\kgb.exe "nombre_vBios".rom unlock
Change what you want to edit in the config - tweak your vBios.
No, I don't have a clue how to use it..I'm not going to lie to you…
Best regards.
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Hello ELP3, I now have an EVGA GTX 690. With a Benq XL2420T monitor at 1080P, but I use the 120hz in games. Would you change to a GTX TITAN? In the future I could do an SLI. I don't know if I will gain something in smoothness which is what I want.
Best regards
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Hello ELP3, I now have an EVGA GTX 690. With a Benq XL2420T monitor at 1080P, but I use the 120hz in games. Would you change to a GTX TITAN? In the future I could do an SLI. I don't know if I'll gain anything in smoothness which is what I want.
Best regards
Let's ver.La 690, for the moment, it's more potente.No much more, but it is.. I don't know if with decent drivers and Oc you can reach its altura.Es difficult, but perhaps, I say stock.
However, obviously, although SLI is very refined, it's always better to have a single GPU.
The best thing is that you continue with your 690, and when the TITANs are at a corresponding price, then you consider a possible change with a view to an SLI of them.
Salu2.
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No,no tengo ni zorra de como utilizarlo..para que te voy a engañar…
Salu2.
No te mareo mas, ademas estan en fase de experimentacion, tuneando el power limit, fan y el boost, eso es lo que personaliza la herramienta.
Que vas a notar mejora en el OC, no lo se, no lo he probado.
Zupernico tambien tiene alguna Titan, si el quiere comentar la experiencia adelante, yo por tener no tengo ni las GTX 680, las he vendido, pero use el KGB con las GTX 680 y si que funcionaba, me refiero a cambiar el boost, voltaje, fan y power limit.
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It doesn't dizzy me anymore, besides they are in the experimentation phase, tuning the power limit, fan and the boost, that's what customizes the tool.
You will notice an improvement in the OC, I don't know, I haven't tested it.
Zupernico also has some Titan, if he wants to comment on the experience go ahead, I don't have any GTX 680s, I sold them, but I used the KGB with the GTX 680s and it did work, I mean changing the boost, voltage, fan and power limit.
I've flashed them, the power limit leaves it at 120 and the fan can be set to 100%, but in synthetic tests I haven't seen improvements, it ends up more or less the same, maybe in games... but I don't know, maybe it's a matter of seeing what they modify, the voltage and the temperature limit will be important, but for now...
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Hello, I want to join the club. I'm eager to get a Titan, but I'd like to get a hydrocopper.
ELP3 Thanks for posting your results and opinions. Here I think there are many of us who follow you.
It's great to read this post, where I come from it's for suicide. What a bunch of people. But thanks to a fellow member I was able to find this one and join it.Best regards to everyone.
Welcome here.
If you end up getting that EVGA it would be good to see what you modify in the bios, I suppose that one will come with OC from the factory and so far what we've seen from the stock Titans is that they don't allow you to maintain the frequencies and voltages, especially with OC, those models that come with OC should allow for a bit more frequency and maintain the voltages better.Regards
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Welcome here.
If you end up getting that EVGA, it would be good to see what modifications are in the bios, I suppose that one will come with factory OC and so far what we have seen from the stock Titans is that they do not allow you to maintain the frequencies and voltages, especially with OC, those models that come with OC should allow for a bit more frequency and better voltage maintenance.Regards
From what I have read on stremsystems, the bios are the same, they do not improve any of that, they just come with increased frequencies, we will have to see, but I have a bios from the SC signature and from what they say it is not worth putting it in….
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With which you were all involved here…. Scoundrels!!!! :ugly:
Greetings to old acquaintances!!!
And to the new ones to be known too!!
Elp3, until now I have not been able to congratulate you on your acquisition. Enjoy it!!!
Greetings.
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And to the others who have a GTX Titan too!!! XD
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Well that's why I'm waiting, to see how the Hydrocopper, frequencies, and OC turn out. If with OC they match the 690 that I have, I'll change it with the idea of going for an SLI. Well as ELP3 says, I'll wait a little. But not much jajaja we all have the bug to tinker.Best regards and thanks for your responses.
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With you guys being involved here…. Scoundrels!!!! :ugly:
Greetings to old acquaintances!!!
And to the new ones to be met too!!
Elp3, until now I haven't been able to congratulate you on your acquisition. Enjoy it!!!
Best regards.
Edit:
And to the others who have a GTX Titan too!!! XD
Welcome Chupaita, rise or die…and what better forum than this, a legend of computer science.
Best regards.
That's why I'm waiting, to see how the Hydrocopper, frequencies and OC turn out. Maybe with OC they will match the 690 I have. If so I will change it with a view to going for an SLI. As ELP3 says I will wait a little. But not much jajaja we all have the bug to tinker.
Best regards and thanks for your answers.
It is very difficult for a TITAN to be on par with a 690. Maybe if they can sustain 1250MHZ OCs continuously yes..but that is impossible right now. Because the software voltages for OC are not really applied. But it's not all about that..with an OC of 1150MHZ that all of them practically do, you are already at less than 10% of a 690 and of course with greater smoothness. But I think that having what you have, the most sensible thing is to wait until they drop in price, refine firmware, drivers and OC systems.
Best regards.
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A question I'm learning, if the smoothness is given by the 6GB of VRAM, how would an EVGA GTX 680 of 4GB work, would it be smoother than a GTX 680 OC of 2GB??
I leave the question there for whoever wants to answer …..
Mine (GTX 680) were the OC of 2GB from Gigabyte and maybe I was considering not buying 3 but a EVGA SC of 4GB, mainly to have one of each model in HWBOT.
Or better yet, I wait for the Titans to mature and release some version with more OC in series, if they raise the boost or perfect the issue of the bios shaper and are not capped, it would be interesting to get a version of those SuperOverclocked from EVGA.
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A question I'm learning, if the smoothness is given by the 6 GB of VRAM, how would a 4GB EVGA GTX 680 perform compared to a 2GB GTX 680 OC? Would it be smoother?
I'll leave the question there for anyone who wants to answer …..
Mine (GTX 680) were the 2GB OC from Gigabyte and maybe I was considering not buying 3 but one EVGA SC 4GB mainly to have one of each model on HWBOT.
Or maybe I should wait for the Titans to mature and release a version with more OC out of the box, if they increase the boost or perfect the BIOS shaper issue and they are not capped, it would be interesting to get a SuperOverclocked version from EVGA.
The "smoothness" is not due to its greater amount of Vram.Si but to its greater bus and greater bandwidth. Note that the bandwidth of a TITAN is 50% greater than that of a GTX 680. And although there are discussions and opinions on this, I believe that having a larger data bus also helps. 256bit VS 384 bit, apart from the actual power of the chip..
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Welcome Chupaita, to be reborn or to die…and what better forum than this, a true legend of computing.
Best regards.
It is very difficult for a TITAN to reach the level of a 690. Maybe if they can sustain 1250MHZ OCs continuously, yes... but that is impossible right now. Because the software voltages for OC are not really applied. But it's not all about that... with an OC of 1150MHZ that practically everyone does, you are already below 10% of a 690 and of course with greater smoothness. But I think that with what you have, the most sensible thing is to wait for them to drop in price, refine the firmware, drivers and OC systems.
Best regards.
With a standard OC it almost matches my GTX 690 in the Fire strike.
My result with stock clocks. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3930K Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE IV EXTREME score: P10550 3DMarks
As you rightly say, with some maturity, if they refine the drivers, firmware and a good stable OC at 1250 it will reach its height. I also think that Nvidia knows very well the potential of the graphics card and "maybe they didn't want to or couldn't get everything out at once". By refining some things they can awaken the beast.
Best regards
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Congratulations ELP3 again among the top 10, if I remember correctly this is the best location you achieved or at least since I know you, impressive!!!!
With so many Titans in your power is there any project for a 4K TV (as I understand they are limited to 30 fps) or monitor like the Sharp PN-K321 during this year.
Obviously their prices are high between U$S 5000 to U$S 10000 but those who have tried them say that their quality is monumental.-
Salu2.
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It's that the "smoothness" is not due to its greater amount of Vram.Si but to its greater bus and greater bandwidth. Note that the bandwidth of a TITAN is 50% greater than that of a GTX 680. And although there are discussions and opinions on this, I believe that having a greater data bus also helps. 256bit VS 384 bit, apart from the chip's own power.
And within the same GTX 680 series, it would perform better with more VRAM, it would be comparing between a 2 GB and a 4 GB.
In some factor it should be noticed, less FPS drop, better FPS minimums, etc... I mean it should be different in some synthetic test that takes advantage of the 4 GB of VRAM.
Of the Titan, if it's because of the bus that is wider, it can't be compared to the GTX 680 because it uses a different architecture and it would be to know the improvement or evolution between both technologies, GF104 and GF110, but for now I stick to the GF104 until I see how things are coming out for the GF110.
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And within the same GTX 680 series, it would give better results with more VRAM, it would be comparing between a 2 GB and a 4 GB one.
In some factor it should be noticed, less FPS drop, better FPS minimums, etc... I mean it should be different in some Synthetic Test that takes advantage of the 4 GB of VRAM.
Of the Titan if it's because of the bus that is wider it can't be compared with the GTX 680 because it uses a different architecture and it would be to know the improvement or evolution between both technologies, GF104 and GF110, but for now I stick with the GF104 until I see how things are coming out for the GF110.
Let's see, both architectures are the same, what happens is that the Titans use the GK110 which is a high-end chip, and it has more of everything, starting with more bandwidth thanks to its larger bus, followed by many more Cuda Cores, 5 GPCs instead of 4, more TMUs, more ROPs, larger caches...
It has more of everything, it's a fattened up GK104 in all aspects so it's normal that it's smoother simply because it's more powerful, it doesn't have much mystery either.
I suppose that all the GFs you mention you refer to GK ¿no? ;D.
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So, both architectures are the same, the thing is that the Titans use the GK110 which is a high-end chip, and it has more of everything, starting with more bandwidth thanks to its larger bus, followed by many more Cuda Cores, 5 GPCs instead of 4, more TMUs, more ROPs, larger caches...
It has more of everything, it's a fattened up GK104 in all aspects so it's normal that it's smoother simply because it's more powerful, there's not much mystery to it either.
I assume that all the GFs you mention you mean GK, right? ;D.
Ok, understood.
But the questions I've thrown out there have gone unanswered.
Basically, if you run the Synthetic Tests with two GTX 680s, one with 2 GB and another with 4 GB with the same overclocked clocks, which one will give you the better result?
As for whether it was the GK the mnemonic of the chip, I was hesitating between those two and it was the one I didn't put, the GK.;D
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Ok, understood.
But my questions have not been answered.
Basically, if you pass the Synthetic Tests with two GTX 680s, one with 2 GB and the other with 4 GB with the same overclocked clocks, which one will give you the best result?
As for whether GK was the technician of the chip, I was in doubt between those two and it was the one I didn't put, the GK.;D
It will depend on whether the synthetic test you pass uses more than 2GB of VRAM or not, because if it doesn't use them I already told you that the result will be THE SAME on both, and in case there is some use of VRAM above 2GB, the 4 GB version will go from slightly to much better (depending on the amount of VRAM that the application really uses, and beware, DO NOT confuse this VRAM in use with what the graphics memory meter shows in Afterburner, not because it doesn't measure the graphics memory used by an application X, but because even if it did, it's not the same to measure the VRAM used in the purest style of a "victim cache" in graphics with a lot of VRAM to the authentic need for more VRAM to render an image.
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By modifying the bios you can increase the fans, limit Power Target and in theory the voltage but this does not significantly improve the OC on the GTX 680 it's about 40-50mhz nothing important, because nvidia has limited the power consumption of its gpu with a chip independent of the gpu that keeps the consumption and temperatures within the limits they consider safe... without the possibility of modifying it.
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With a standard OC, it almost matches the performance of my GTX 690 in Fire Strike.
My result with stock clocks. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 690 video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3930K Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE IV EXTREME score: P10550 3DMarks
As you rightly say, with some maturity, if they refine the drivers, firmware, and a good stable OC at 1250, it would reach its height. I also think that Nvidia knows very well the potential of the graphics card and "maybe they didn't want to or couldn't get everything out at once". By refining some things, they can awaken the beast.
Best regards
What I think is that they didn't want to leave their dual orphaned, if the monogpu reaches the dual, it would have to lower that dual quite a bit and as long as there is no competition, they won't do it.
It seems that they don't want to cannibalize any of their cards, although in the end, since both cost around the same, they have them as exclusive products, if the Titan cost €750 or less, the sales of 690 would drop a lot. Even now, the 690 should start to drop in price, at least until they run out of stock.
Congratulations ELP3 again among the top 10, if I remember correctly, this is the best position you've achieved or at least since I've known you, impressive!!!!
With so many Titans in your possession, is there any project for a 4K TV (as far as I understand, they are limited to 30 fps) or a monitor like the Sharp PN-K321 during this year.
Obviously their prices are high between U$S 5000 to U$S 10000 but those who have tried them say that their quality is monumental.
Salu2.
I don't think this is their best position, I believe that with the 680 or the 580, I can't remember, they came in first, in extreme and performance, although then they started to drop according to how more people entered with LN2 or better drivers
!0000$ don't look at Argentina as it is, we are all luxury to have a Titan there, immoral prices, they already are here, I don't even want to imagine what they are like there.
I've flashed them, the power limit leaves it at 120 and you can set the fan to 100%, but in synthetic tests I haven't seen improvements, it ends up more or less the same, maybe in games…., but you never know, maybe we'll see what they modify, voltage and temperature limit will be important, but for now...
If it doesn't do anything by putting in another bios, maybe Nvidia gave them well tied, so that they don't do a significant OC and they can cannibalize the 690, anyway, the Titan would have to improve more by driver than a 690, but it seems that Nvidia wants them staggered, but this thing about Boost 2 doesn't seem like any progress compared to the first boost, it seems more like a further twist to try to cap them.
Looking at this, I think these graphics cards come capped so that they don't consume and aren't noisy, surely if they have a high consumption peak, they cut voltage and frequency.
Saludos
