Test of the Real Nvidia Gtx Titan, single-sli-tri Sli, 4 WAY SLI
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:fuckyea:P.D: No son mias :alone:
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Hello ELP3, there's a lot of talk about the smoothness of the Titan. My question is whether SLI also maintains it and if there's a difference compared to the GTX 690. Damn, I'm getting more and more nervous about getting one or two.
Best regards.
Let's see... the smoothness of the TITAN is that of a rock. That is to say, that although it may drop below 60 fps, it is practically imperceptible, as can happen with other graphics cards. In SLI, of course, it is also maintained. But the fact is that SLI in general, regardless of the model, is very well done. And I believe that you should not notice anything strange in a GTX 690 unless a specific game does not have a good SLI profile. Right now, I wouldn't trade a GTX 690 for a TITAN. Since the latter doesn't perform better most of the time and is also more expensive. Another thing is when things are polished and the price drops...
Regards.
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:fuckyea:P.D: No son mias :alone:
Is that the house of kingpin?
I don't know what he does with that Xbox if he has a bunch of Titan and a couple of 680s, I'm afraid to see how they sell these graphics (those that were limited edition), if they don't end up being it would be incredible the bunch of Titan we would see.saludos
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What is that, the kingpin's house?
I don't know what he does with that Xbox if he has a bunch of Titans and a couple of 680s, I'm afraid to see how they sell these cards (those that were limited edition), if they don't end up being limited edition, it would be incredible the bunch of Titans we would see.regards
by the way...Kingpin has been beaten by Andre Yang from Asus..jeje...it's true that he did it with a motherboard and CPU, not with a GPU, Kingpin has better results with the TITANs, but EVGA is no longer up to par with ASUS motherboards, even less in 2011..although I suppose the difference is so slight, that if Kingpin pushes the graphics a little more, he will be first again..
Salu2.
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I am still working on the overclocking without Throttling issue. The official response from nVidia is that the drivers misread the consumption, and the card lowers the speed when it reaches 100%, and yes, the fan can affect it at this point. They will fix it in an upcoming driver, probably in early April, but that will only give correct readings, the card will still lower if it exceeds the determined consumption. That's why bios that skip that limit are starting to circulate. Starting from what ELP3 did, that is, voltage at maximum without touching anything else, it is stable at 1.032 instead of 1.006. Then I tried to increase the GPU Offset by only 25, and passing a Unigine it didn't stay stable. So, I increased the Power limit to 106, and it is totally stable at 1045 Mhz:
The maximum stayed at 1.071 Mhz: 
It is already at the limit, above here throttling appears, in fact if we look at the graph carefully, we can see three barely perceptible points where the speed was lowered a little, almost nothing and just for a moment, but above that you can't go without drops. I don't touch the memory, because in my tests increasing it affected, and I prefer to increase the GPU. Little by little I am understanding this card. For benchmarking, it's better to increase more, even with throttling you get a better score, but for always playing I prefer the stable limit, 1.071 Mhz on my Titan. By the way, all of this with Afterburner, that one keeps the selected voltage well. Regards
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I continue working on the overclocking issue without Throttling. The official response from nVidia is that the drivers read the consumption incorrectly, and the card lowers the speed when it reaches 100%, and yes, the fan can affect it at this point. They will fix it in an upcoming driver, probably in early April, but that will only give correct readings, the card will continue to lower if it exceeds the determined consumption. That's why bios that skip that limit are starting to circulate.
Starting from what ELP3 put, that is, voltage at maximum without touching anything else, it is stable at 1.032 instead of the 1.006. Then I tried to increase the GPU Offset by only 25, and passing a Unigine it didn't stay stable. Then, I increased the Power limit to 106, and it is totally stable at 1045 Mhz:
The maximum stayed at 1.071 Mhz:
It is already at the limit, above this is where throttling appears, in fact if we look at the graph carefully, we can see three barely perceptible points where the speed was lowered a little, almost nothing and just for a moment, but above that you can't go without drops. I don't touch the memory, because in my tests increasing it affected, and I prefer to increase the GPU.
Little by little I am understanding this card. For benchmarking, it's better to increase more, even with throttling you get a better score, but for always playing I prefer the stable limit, 1.071 Mhz on my Titan. By the way, all this with Afterburner, that one keeps the selected voltage well.
Regards
Unigine is the bench where the drops occur most acutely. It is the bench that squeezes the most out of the graphics and that consumes the most. Also, as a rule, this doesn't happen in games. I have them at 1150MHZ for gaming, well actually I have them at stock, but to try oc I set them to that, and it has never dropped frequency under demanding load. Another thing is that they drop to 830MHZ because in an energy-saving mode if they don't need more load to sustain frames with V-sync..
I'm not going to put any bios... I'll just wait for the new controllers.
Best regards.
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Well, now I can speak with knowledge of the matter...
First, some pictures of the "toy". They were taken with my mobile phone, I didn't want to bother with the camera..........xD.
Something very curious happened to me. When I touched the graphics on my MSI Big Bang motherboard, it got stuck on the LCD that shows the error codes at 29. I was very frustrated, thinking it might be defective. I touched a 670 and it booted up without problems, and so on several occasions, until I decided to update the motherboard's BIOS. I had version 1.3 because I was familiar with it and it asked for less voltage than the latest for 4.9 GHz.
It was updating to 1.5 and booting up perfectly... Why?, I have no idea...
I ran a couple of tests with Unigine and 3DMark, both at 4 GHz, so as not to waste time looking for stability at 4.9.
Unigine at stock Titan
And 3DMark, with a little OC
Not much more to comment on than what the colleagues have said, with a little OC, it eats a 670 SLI without much problem.
This gives me the trio of 670 with the stock graphics and the proc at 4.9
It reminds me of the smoothness I had with the 580s. That stability that the 6 series lacks. Even with the boost problems, which go up and down in 3D, you don't notice anything unless you're monitoring it.
I have prepared a few tests that I passed with the trio in some games. But I will create a thread to face the trio of 670s against a SLI of Titans. To avoid devirtualizing the one from my friend ELP3
Cheers...
Honestly, Jotole, for what you've built, 2 won't work either... 3 you'll notice a big improvement..but the only way it will run smoothly is with 4 TITANS..they're made for that. And you need that power for that beastly resolution. I'm talking about playing with high settings in cutting-edge games. A 3-monitor surround of 27" Dell is A LOT of fabric to handle, and I wouldn't even dare to touch it...it takes a LOT of power and a LOT of everything...
Best regards.I know, I know the mess I've gotten myself into..........xD. But I've been after this surround for a long time, and until now I haven't seen graphics that could handle it, even the 4-way 580 was just enough for the 5760 x 1080, you'll know this from experience. ;).
As for putting that one up. Now seems like a good time to talk about hardware with the power these graphics offer.
With 2 of them I'll have the power of a 4-way 670, which will be little, don't kid yourself, but my main enemy at that resolution was VRAM. Putting any game on High, not even on Ultra, as I was running them in 3 x 23", was to eat up the 2 GB of memory of the 670s in one fell swoop.
Even in games with low resource consumption, the nosedive to 0 fps, which is produced by running out of VRAM, was something no one could take away from me, even with the power to run them.
Perhaps the smartest option would have been to wait for the 7 series, and buy the graphics with at least 4 GB, but as we know that the 7 series won't surpass this Titan. I didn't want to wait.
The main idea was to get three, but for the money they cost, they're in high demand, they fly off the shelves before they arrive, believe it or not. On Monday, a second one arrives, and I'm waiting for them to confirm the third............ ;).
Honestly, I hope it stays there, with details on Ultra and MSAA x2, I have more than enough, I don't need more. That after I'll have to put water blocks on them, I'm not used to seeing the graphics at 80º, I'm used to not seeing them go over 45, that and the gain they have with OC, they gain more than the 6 series, pushes me to water cool them if or when.
And it's a shame because the cooler is almost a work of art.......
A hug....!!
P.D. Oh my god the push that the beta testers have given the Titan, this one alone leaves the trio of 670s in their underwear :ugly:
P.D. 2 It never ceases to amaze me!!!
This is Medal of Honor Warfighter at 2550 x 1440 in Ultra MSAA 4x
3 x GTX 670
2013-03-15 23:49:30 - MOHW
Frames: 22889 - Time: 195813ms - Avg: 116.892 - Min: 89 - Max: 155Titan x 1
2013-03-17 04:25:43 - MOHW
Frames: 11976 - Time: 170166ms - Avg: 70.378 - Min: 57 - Max: 94 and still drivers to update….!! -
Many congratulations Jotele and Pepillo for those graphics are a good beasts…
Jotele what a mess you have got yourself into with those monitors ;D
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Congratulations Jotole and Pepilo for those Titans. I hope you enjoy them and I am looking forward Jotole to see that comparison of the tri sli of the 670 with the Sli of TITAN....
And even more to see them in the soaking........... hahaha
A hug.
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by the way…the Kingpin has been beaten by Andre Yang from Asus..jeje...it's true that he did it with a motherboard and CPU, not with a GPU, Kingpin has better results with the TITANs, but EVGA is no longer up to par with ASUS motherboards, and even less so in 2011..although I suppose the difference is so slight, that if Kingpin pushes the graphics a little more, he will be first again..
Regards.
That happens when you have to use a single brand, if Gigabyte had an x79 that could compete with Asus, it could surpass it, but well, 3dmark has always been very dependent on CPU, that's why with a good CPU that goes up a lot, you could have a score that is much better than with another CPU that is worse, even with a more powerful graphics card or with more frequency, the GPU should have more influence than anything else, although I think that with 4 titans, a faster CPU makes them perform better, it's strange that it has a worse GPU score.
regards
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It reminds me of the smoothness I had with the 580. That stability that the 6 series lacks. Even with the bost issues, which goes up and down in 3D, you don't notice anything unless you're monitoring it.
For the first time I really understand this smoothness that the GTX 480/580 is so talked about when I try Crysis at 1440p playing at 20 fps and it's smooth, you can see it starts to falter from 15fps, but with the GTX 285 the screen tearing and flickering was incredible at 20 fps.
Maybe the smartest option would have been to wait for the 7 series, and buy graphics cards with at least 4Gb, but as we know that the 7 series won't go above this Titan. I didn't want to wait.
Well the GTX 770/780 seem to have 3GB and if Titan is 50% above the GTX 680 they should be at least 25-30% above the latter, because they have to keep selling when the Titan boom is over.
The main idea was to get three, but for the money they cost they are more than in demand, they fly off the shelves before they even arrive, even though it may seem unbelievable. On Monday I received a second one, and I'm waiting for them to confirm the third... ;).
It seems to me that Nvidia themselves must have been caught off guard otherwise the lack of stock can't be explained, they will probably have to expand that stock of 10,000 graphics cards, which in several countries we won't even see.
Salu2.
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For the first time I really understand this smoothness that is so talked about in the GTX 480/580 when testing Crysis at 1440p playing at 20 fps and it runs smooth, it starts to falter from 15 fps, but with the GTX 285 the screen tearing and flickering was incredible at 20 fps.
Well the GTX 770/780 seem to have 3GB and if the Titan is 50% above the GTX 680 they should be at least 25-30% above the latter, because they have to keep selling when the Titan boom ends.
I think that NVIDIA themselves must have been caught off guard otherwise the lack of stock is not explained, they will probably have to expand that stock of 10,000 graphics cards, which in several countries we will not even see.
Regards.
Let's not start with the hateful hype that deceives so much.
It would just be too much if it now turns out that 20 fps, no matter how well placed they are (by the way, a merit of the graphics engine, it is already known that Crytek's engine is good at low average fps), are "smooth" when the minimum to which a movie is shown to minimally deceive the human eye is at 24 fps.
And I assure you one thing, nothing surpasses the "stability" of fps of a video camera, there are no latencies, the fps are not placed when they do not touch, nor is the "state of the world" shown outdated.
So that "20 fps and it runs smooth", it doesn't. It will impress you and everything you want, but it has nothing smooth about it. And much less "starts to falter" from 15 fps, please. ¬¬
P.D.: Possibly when your GTX 285 gave such bad fps rates it was more irregular for a reason that has nothing to do with the chip itself, but with the VRAM, which in this graphics card could run out in titles due to its long "durability" and that has faced games designed to use more VRAM.
Because the GT200 graphics cards have been the ones that have been best served by bandwidth (even with a "nice" bus of 512/448 bits, which really doesn't matter but as many people like it, I mention it), for the power they could deliver, and their ratio of TMUs and ROPs is very good.
Another matter is that the VRAM in games from 2 years ago onwards runs out easily, and scratches occur. But come on... the GT200s have been and are very smooth if they are not put in unfair situations (when I got rid of mine its VRAM was already being pushed to the limit, and that was about 3 years ago).
P.D.: What NVIDIA has incorporated in Fermi and Kepler (all of them) is extra hardware for better SLI operation in timing, but it is not even clear if this trend did not start before, only that Fermi and Kepler certainly incorporate this control and monitoring hardware. But this should not affect single GPU performance. What does affect is drivers, drivers and drivers. And NVIDIA in that sense does not abandon its previous graphics cards, as can be seen by checking that the GTX 580s do not "stand out" with the latest drivers of the GTX 600, despite the fact that the latter have been improving with each new driver release. Support is very important for the life of a graphics card.
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Something very curious happened to me, when I overclocked the graphics card on my MSI Big Bang motherboard, it got stuck on the LCD that shows the error codes at 29. I was very frustrated, thinking it might be defective. I overclocked a 670 and it booted without any problems, and I did this several times, until I decided to update the motherboard's BIOS. I had the 1.3 because I was familiar with it and it asked for less voltage than the latest one for 4.9 Ghz.
I updated to the 1.5 and it booted perfectly… Why?, I have no idea...
Don't take much notice of me, but I think it's because the Titan has UEFI BIOS and the current BIOS on your motherboard didn't support it; but I'm telling you, don't take much notice of me...
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Let's not start with the hateful hypes that are so misleading.
It would just be too much if it now turns out that 20 fps, no matter how well placed they are (which is quite an achievement for the graphics engine, as Crytek's engine is known to be good at low average fps rates), are "smooth" when the minimum at which a movie is shown to minimally deceive the human eye is at 24 fps.
And I assure you one thing, nothing beats the "stability" of fps from a video camera, there are no latencies, the fps are not placed when they don't need to be, nor is the "state of the world" shown out of date.
So that "20 fps and it's smooth", that's not really the case. It will impress you and all you want, but it's not smooth at all. And much less "starts to falter" from 15 fps, please. ¬¬
PD: Possibly when your GTX 285 gave such bad fps rates it was more irregular for a reason that has nothing to do with the chip itself, but with the VRAM, which in this graphics card could become scarce in titles due to its long "durability" and that it may have faced games designed to use more VRAM.
Because the GT200 graphics cards have been the ones that have been best served by bandwidth (even with a "nice" bus of 512/448 bits, which really doesn't matter but as many people like it, I mention it), for the power they could deliver, and their ratio of TMUs and ROPs is very good.
Another matter is that the VRAM in games from 2 years ago onwards would be depleted easily, and scratches would occur. But come on... the GT200s have been and are very smooth if they are not put in unfair situations (when I got rid of mine, its VRAM was already being pushed to the limit, and that was about 3 years ago).
PD: What Nvidia has incorporated in Fermi and Kepler (all of them) seems to be hard extra for the best functioning of SLI in timing, but it's not even clear if this trend wouldn't have started before, only that Fermi and Kepler surely incorporate this control and monitoring hard. But this shouldn't matter for single GPU performance. What matters there is drivers, drivers and drivers. And Nvidia in that sense doesn't abandon its previous graphics cards, as can be seen by checking that the GTX 580s don't "fall behind" with the latest drivers of the GTX 600s, despite the fact that the latter have been improving with each new driver release. Support is very important for the life of a graphics card.
It's not that I'm looking for explanations for why it performs the way it does, I just see how it performs. I changed the GTX 285 because at less than 30 fps it was already unplayable for me and until now, no game I've tried with the GTX 580 has ever dropped below 30 fps.
I'm just surprised at myself for not having stutters or flickers like before, also take into account that I'm not one of those demanding users ;D (my TV has an input lag of 120 ms) who look at every last detail, just that this graphics card is surprising me with how long it's lasting.
Salu2.
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It's that I don't look for explanations for what it corresponds to, I just see how it performs, I changed the GTX 285 because at less than 30 fps it already felt unplayable and until now no game I had tried with the GTX 580 had ever dropped to 30 fps.
I'm just surprised at myself for not having stuttering or flickering like before, also take into account that I'm not one of the demanding users ;D (my TV has an input lag of 120 ms) who look at every last detail, just that this graphics card is surprising me with how long it's lasting.
Salu2.
It's that this graphics generation is far ahead of what the software asks for, you need to use something very demanding to really require the performance of GCN/Kepler and not have a Fermi or even to a lesser degree an Evergreen (which seems like it's far away, but not so much).
Partly it's because of the console ports, and partly because you really don't need to break the performance of a graphics card to show great moments on screen, many games that have the best atmosphere are not the ones that ask for the most.
And this is accentuated if you're not too demanding with the fps either. But you should know that it's relatively normal that with Crytek engines 30-40 fps can seem more solid than the 60 fps of other engines (I'm not saying less fps because that's not enough for my level of demand, but it also happens).
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@josele.:
Many congratulations Jotele and Pepillo for those graphics, they are great beasts…
Jotele, what a mess you've gotten yourself into with those monitors ;D
Jjejejee, the truth is, I didn't think they would suck so much…........xD. But it's worth it..
Thanks josele
Best regards..
Congratulations Jotole and Pepilo for those Titans. I hope you enjoy them and I'm looking forward to seeing that comparison of the tri sli of the 670 with the Sli of TITAN…....
And even more so to see them in water…........... jajajajaja
Hugs.
Let's see if I have it ready by the weekend coming….......
Best regards..
For the first time I really understand this smoothness that is so talked about with the GTX 480/580 when trying Crysis at 1440p playing at 20 fps and it runs smooth, it starts to falter from 15fps, but with the GTX 285 the screen stutters and flickers were incredible at 20 fps.
Well, the GTX 770/780 seem to have 3GB and if Titan is 50% above the GTX 680, they would have to be at least 25-30% above the latter, because they have to keep selling when the Titan boom ends.
I think that Nvidia must have been caught off guard, otherwise the lack of stock can't be explained, they will surely have to expand that stock of 10,000 graphics, which in several countries we won't even see.
Best regards.
Those calculations are what I was doing with the 770/780, what I would lack would be vram with those 3 GB, I would have to get some "special" model with more vram, and I don't know if the price would be worth it with the wait/performance. I think I did well not to wait for that series.
I don't think they are limited edition as was rumored at the beginning, although it is true that I think even Nvidia didn't expect them to fly off like this due to their high price.
Best regards..
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Jotole congratulations.
I look forward to your tests. As you know, I am very busy and not even at home, but I will try to follow them with the greatest possible interest.
A hug.
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Jotole congratulations.
I look forward to your tests. As you know, I'm very busy and not even at home, but I will try to follow them with the greatest interest possible.
A hug.
Thanks ELP3. And lots of encouragement....!!
A hug.!!!
Today, after spending 4 hours fighting with the new bios, I have managed to stabilize the proc again at 4.9 Ghz.
Even so, I have had time to touch the oc on Titan a little. Indeed, the boost it marks from the start, it won't see it again except at certain points. Still, the gain with the oc on these cards is what Nvidia had accustomed us to with the 480/580.
I leave you a couple of benches...
The maximum oc I have reached has been 1255, but at the end of the 3Dmark 11 it has exploded….........xD. So I think it doesn't count........;D
Don't worry, you will be a bit tired of seeing bench tests nothing more.
I have tests at 6 of the most cutting-edge games of the moment, runs with the 3 way of 670, to face them to a sli of Titans. But seeing how it pulls one, I am going to include it in the comparison, so we will check the scaling, and you will see how it performs one of these alone, because it is impressive how it performs this card from the start.
A greeting...
P.D. Take the result of the 3Dmark 11 Second in the world….......... :ugly::ugly:
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Congratulations Jotole, too bad about the boost and voltage problems because those cards could overclock well and perform better, let's see if the other one arrives.
Also congratulations to Pepillo, it seems they throw those Titans well.
Best regards
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You are already waging war in 3dMark :wall: Here we can see how Andre Yang has beaten the record with LN2: GTX Titan Quad-SLI & Rampage IV Extreme Break New 3DMark 11 Records - Republic of Gamers Best regards.
