Battle of the titans "780 ti Vs 290x" first results.
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Being tests from Nvidia themselves, you can expect some piracy..
But come on, the latest benchmarks that games bring me are a joke…90% of them don't match reality when playing.
The graphics will be very good..but I have my TITANs at 1300MHZ and they can catch me whenever they want..I already have graphics for a decade...let them bring out the GHZ reedition, the XXX and whatever they want..
Best regards.
P.D. That said, I hope this time they don't get carried away, and don't try to sell it for more than 600-650€..but from Nvidia, I don't know..that's not their style..;)
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Being tests from Nvidia themselves, you can expect some piracy..
But come on, the latest benchs that games bring me make me laugh…90% don't match reality when playing.
The graphics will be very good..but I have my TITANs at 1300MHZ and they can catch me whenever they want..I already have graphics for a decade...let them bring out the GHZ reedition, the XXX and whatever they want..
Best regards.
P.D. That said, I hope this time they don't get carried away, and don't try to sell it for more than 600-650€..but from Nvidia, I don't know..that's not their style..;)
You shouldn't buy more graphics cards! Until the next generation of Nvidia's 20nm GPUs, I don't give you permission to change xD
On the other hand, it's said that they will be worth 700 dollars…The recently released 290 were announced at 400 dollars, and here they cost 350 euros...So the 780 ti will cost the price you mention.
Best regards.
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I think they can no longer get on the bandwagon, things are not the same as when they launched the Titan or the 780, now many people will prefer to buy a 780 at 430€ if they want Nvidia.
Let's say I didn't pay what they asked for the 780 at 650€ and I wouldn't do it for the 780Ti either, besides now I don't think many people who already have 780 or Titan will switch to that 780Ti, it's better for them to wait for Maxwell.
regards
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ZOTAC GeForce GTX 780 Ti FEATURES
- NVIDIA GPU Boost 2.0 technology
- NVIDIA Adaptive Vertical Sync Technology
- NVIDIA SMX shader architecture
- NVIDIA PhysX technology
- NVIDIA CUDA technology
- NVIDIA 3D Vision Surround support
- NVIDIA SLI ready (3-way-SLI)
- NVIDIA SHIELD gaming-portable ready
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 780 Ti Specifications:
- 2,880 processor cores
- 3GB GDDR5
- 384-bit memory bus
- Engine clock (base): 876 MHz
- (boost): 928 MH
- Memory clock: 7000 MHz
- PCI Express 3.0 (compatible with 1.1)*
- DisplayPort 1.2 (4K ready); 2 x DL-DVI; VGA (with included adapter); 1 x HDMI
- 700-watt power supply recommended
- 250-watt max power consumption
- Microsoft DirectX 11.2 (feature level 11_0)
- OpenGL 4.4
Fuente:http://videocardz.com/47678/zotac-geforce-gtx-780-ti-pictured-detailed
Con 2 de estas no se queda uno como je je.
Aprovechando que hoy tenían que mandarme las 780 de pc componentes y no les da la gana de mandarlas estoy tentado de parar el pedido y esperar a ver que tal se mueven las cosas.
Creeis que bajarán más las Gtx 780 a la salida de la 780 ti?.
Tendría suficiente potencia para nvidia 3d con una sola 780 ti a 1080?.
Estas siguen siendo DX11 o ya son 11.2?.
Teniendo 2 7970 (en venta) y 2 r9 280x, merece la pena comprar la Gtx para nvidia 3d o mejor esperar a lo 20nm?
Es que con tato tira y afloja no sabe uno que hacer.
Gracias y saludosEnviado desde mi GT-N7100 usando Tapatalk 2
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ZOTAC GeForce GTX 780 Ti FEATURES
- NVIDIA GPU Boost 2.0 technology
- NVIDIA Adaptive Vertical Sync Technology
- NVIDIA SMX shader architecture
- NVIDIA PhysX technology
- NVIDIA CUDA technology
- NVIDIA 3D Vision Surround support
- NVIDIA SLI ready (3-way-SLI)
- NVIDIA SHIELD gaming-portable ready
ZOTAC GeForce GTX 780 Ti Specifications:
- 2,880 processor cores
- 3GB GDDR5
- 384-bit memory bus
- Engine clock (base): 876 MHz
- (boost): 928 MH
- Memory clock: 7000 MHz
- PCI Express 3.0 (compatible with 1.1)*
- DisplayPort 1.2 (4K ready); 2 x DL-DVI; VGA (with included adapter); 1 x HDMI
- 700-watt power supply recommended
- 250-watt max power consumption
- Microsoft DirectX 11.2 (feature level 11_0)
- OpenGL 4.4
Fuente:http://videocardz.com/47678/zotac-geforce-gtx-780-ti-pictured-detailed
Con 2 de estas no se queda uno como je je.
Aprovechando que hoy tenían que mandarme las 780 de pc componentes y no les da la gana de mandarlas estoy tentado de parar el pedido y esperar a ver que tal se mueven las cosas.
Creeis que bajarán más las Gtx 780 a la salida de la 780 ti?.
Tendría suficiente potencia para nvidia 3d con una sola 780 ti a 1080?.
Estas siguen siendo DX11 o ya son 11.2?.
Teniendo 2 7970 (en venta) y 2 r9 280x, merece la pena comprar la Gtx para nvidia 3d o mejor esperar a lo 20nm?
Es que con tato tira y afloja no sabe uno que hacer.
Gracias y saludosEnviado desde mi GT-N7100 usando Tapatalk 2
Nvidia no creo que meta Dx11.2, menos en Kepler y desde luego que dos 780 deben tirar bastante mas que una 780Ti, luego ya no se si bajara la 780 pero hoy alguno dicen haber encontrado la Asus DC II a 370€, no se si al final se las enviaran o diran que es un error, se han acabado en poco tiempo.
http://xtremmedia.com/?q=product/view/familia/64
como las consigan a ese precio y con juegos han tenido mucha suerte, el 3d no lo he probado pero apuesto a que un SLI también va a poder mucho mejor que una monogpu, aunque si había gente jugando con SLI de 470,480 o 580 una sola 780 ya debería poder igual.
Veo que ese enlace no manda directamente a la tarjeta pero poniendo asus y marcando Nvidia, esta en la penúltima pagina.
saludos
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I bought a DC II OC this morning at 370 pavetes, and no, it doesn't seem like a mistake, because in fact they are being seen on other sites at that price.
Asus VGA GTX780 3GB Overclocked graphics card - GTX780-DC2OC-3GD5 :: TPO Informática
Regards.
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I bought a DC II OC this morning at 370 pavetes, and no, it doesn't seem like a mistake, because in fact they are being seen on other sites at that price.
Asus VGA GTX780 3GB Overclocked graphics card - GTX780-DC2OC-3GD5 :: TPO Informática
Regards.
Great purchase..;)
Well, tomorrow the 780Ti come out..or today..the starting price in Spain is 650€…imaginado.No is not bad for being Nvidia but they are expensive. Of course, next to a 290X to which you have to do 800 things to be able to have it even at 80º and its supposed performance, they may even seem to have a reasonable price.
I think it's expected..
Regards.
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I bought a DC II OC this morning for 370 pavetes, and no, it doesn't seem like a mistake, because in fact they are being seen on other sites at that price.
Asus VGA GTX780 3GB Overclocked graphics card - GTX780-DC2OC-3GD5 :: TPO Informática
Regards.
If I had already seen that offer too and now it seems more convincing, because at that price of course whoever has equipment to be able to do SLI gets much better two of those than one 780Ti, the review they will give will be important, costing little more.
So in the end I'll set up the SLI sooner than I thought.
Regards
Great purchase..;)
Well, tomorrow the 780Ti come out..or today..the starting price in Spain is 650€…the imagined.No is not bad for being Nvidia but they are expensive. Of course, next to a 290X to which you have to do 800 things to be able to have it even at 80º and its supposed performance, they may seem even to have a reasonable price.
I think it's expected..
Regards.
They are expensive but like the 780 when it came out, here are the EVGA
EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB GDDR5 03G-P4-2881-KR Graphics Card
but prices should stabilize when other brands have them and the one that should cost that would be some version of 6GB, anyway the 780 seeing the discounts has gained a lot of interest, that DCII is very well priced.They have put more phases and more capacitors of that military type as MSI says on these Ti's.
http://videocardz.com/47709/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-ti-pcb-picturedThey have redesigned the VRM, although they don't say the phases, but it should work better with more voltage.
Regards
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We already have GTX 780 Ti in Spain, 669€ at PCC…
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If I had already seen that offer and now it seems more convincing, then at that price, of course, anyone who has equipment to be able to do SLI will get much better with two of these than one 780Ti, the review they will give will be important, costing little more.
Let's say that in the end I'll set up the SLI sooner than I thought.
Regards
They are expensive but like the 780 when it came out, here they already have the EVGA
EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB GDDR5 03G-P4-2881-KR Graphics Card
but prices should stabilize when other brands have them and the one that should cost that would be some version of 6GB, in any case, the 780 seeing the discounts has gained a lot of interest, that DCII is very well priced.They have put more phases and more capacitors of that military type as MSI says on these Ti's.
http://videocardz.com/47709/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-ti-pcb-picturedThey have redesigned the VRM, although they do not say the phases, but it should work better with more voltage.
Regards
So the physical changes between these new GTX 780 Ti's compared to the GTX 780/Titan can be listed as follows:
1.- Use of 7GTs memories instead of 6GTs memories.
2.- Redesign of the regulation phases and components related to the power supply improving their capabilities (more capacitors, MOSFETs of better quality).
3.- Use of the new stepping of the GK110 B1 in front of the use of the A1 in the GTX780/titan. It is to be assumed that they will end up being used also in the other graphics, but it seems that the GTX 780 Ti is the only one (perhaps with the enigmatic GHz edition included) that guarantees that it will carry the new stepping. Theoretically it could improve the maximum frequency limits of the chip as it is a more refined stepping (and maybe improving consumption against the A1 in the same conditions).
Obviously the icing on the cake of this range in nvidia is with the normal 780, but it should be clear that the GTX 780 Ti is not simply a "reflash" of other GTX 780 with higher frequencies, and using chips less capped. It is something more that implies a different assembly line from which the other GK110 come out (different components on the PCB).
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So the physical changes between these new GTX 780 Ti vs GTX 780/Titan can be listed as follows:
1.- Use of 7GT memory instead of 6GT memory.
2.- Redesign of the power regulation phases and related components improving their capabilities (more capacitors, better quality MOSFETs).
3.- Use of the new GK110 B1 stepping instead of the A1 used in GTX 780/Titan. It is to be assumed that they will eventually be used in other graphics cards as well, but it seems that the GTX 780 Ti is the only one (perhaps with the enigmatic GHz edition included) that guarantees the new stepping. Theoretically, it could improve the maximum frequency limits of the chip as it is a more refined stepping (and perhaps improving consumption compared to the A1 under the same conditions).
Obviously the icing on the cake in this range at nvidia is with the normal 780, but it should be clear that the GTX 780 Ti is not simply a "reflash" of other GTX 780 with higher frequencies, and using chips with less die cuts. It is something more that implies a different assembly line from which the other GK110 come out (different components on the PCB).
Of course they have changed revision, now it is easier for ASICs to be better, perhaps it is a redesign, I suppose that the GHZ must have high ASICs to guarantee the working frequency.
regards
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Well, seeing the performance difference between a 290 at 349 euros and a 780 ti at 669 euros in Crysis 3 ….it gives it 5 FRAMES!!!
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages…review,25.html
Discarded
83 degrees after the summer, it's this year's fashion…..heating included
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages…_review,9.html
Wait for the 290 custom or get 2 780s at a lower price.
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Well, seeing the OC and knowing how stingy guru3d is, I think that in good hands it will do amazing things.
83º with auto fan, that one just needs to speed up the fan to not go over 83º, meaning it will still be quiet.
GeForce GTX 780 Ti review - Overclocking The Graphics Card
as soon as they put the MSI Mod on it, I think it will go up quite a bit.
It eats up the OC on the core because it raises the memory too much, when that is already more than enough bandwidth.
regards
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Well, seeing the OC and knowing how closed-off guru3d is, I think that in good hands it will do amazing things.
83º with auto fan, that one only needs to speed up the fan to not go over 83º, meaning it will still be quiet.
GeForce GTX 780 Ti review - Overclocking The Graphics Card
as soon as they put the MSI Mod on it, I think it will go up quite a bit.
It eats up the OC on the core because it raises the memory a lot, when that is already more than enough bandwidth.
regards
Yes I'm not saying it won't go up, but for 699€ it's not worth it.
For a little more you have a 780 sli that gives it a very interesting beating.
And if you overclock it you also overclock the temperatures, which isn't very cool.
This is like everything, you have to see the good and the bad and criticize any brand.
I'm not saying it's not a beast, it will be, but with the 780s out there at 400€ and the titans, this price performance doesn't add up for me.
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Yes I'm not saying it won't go up, but for 699€ it's not worth it.
For a little more you have an sli of 780 that gives it a very interesting overhaul.
And if you overclock it you also overclock temperatures, which isn't very cool.
This is like everything, you have to see the good and the bad and criticize any brand.
I'm not saying it won't be a beast, it will be, but with the 780s out at 400€ and the titans, this price performance doesn't add up to me.
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It's clear that power if you get two cheap 780s will perform much better, but it's also true that Nvidia's releases always go up a lot at the same time, it's not just Nvidia's thing that will have it too, many times it's the stores that want to make more money on the novelty, that's why the Titan was seen at over 1000€ when it came out or the 780 for over 650€.
It's just a matter of waiting a little and not going through the hoop in these abuses, when it stabilizes it will probably be found at less than 600€ which without being cheap will be somewhat better.
What happens is that now it's going to keep coming out better to buy 780 and more if deals keep coming, it won't be like a 780 and a 770 which were different chips, now it will be better to buy something cheaper and change when they release the 20nm.
Regards
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Bueno pues viendo la diferencia de rendimiento entre una 290 de 349 euros y una 780 ti de 669 euros en Crysis 3 ….le saca 5 FRAMES!!!
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages…review,25.html
Descartada
83 graditos pasado el verano, es la moda de este año…..calefacción incluida
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages…_review,9.html
Esperar custon de las 290 o pillar 2 780 bajaditas de precio.
saludos¿Se puede saber porqué estás copiando comentarios de otro foro aquí y que además no son tuyos?, porque has hecho una copia literal de un comentario de pirata de N3D.
PD: Sí, 5 fps son pocos o MUCHOS dependiendo del total, de la misma manera que 20 fps importan una mierda con 200 fps de partida. Y sí, 83ºC de temperatura, sin hacer throttling apenas, es todo un éxito, más cuando no tienes porqué quedarte sordo por el camino, que es el auténtico sentido del disipador de las nvidia GTX 780 y superiores, calidad y sonoridad muy buena para una solución blower.
PPD: A ver si va a ser cierta la acusación que te lanzaron hace ni un par de días de venir por aquí para trolear, porque vamos… todo un copy y paste de comentario ajeno y de otro foro, ni más ni menos:
http://foro.noticias3d.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=420401&p=4991799&viewfull=1#post4991799
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Yes, I'm not saying it won't go up, but for 699€ it's not worth it.
For a little more you have an SLI of 780 that gives it a very curious overhaul.
And if you overclock it, you also increase temperatures, which is not very cool.
This is like everything, you have to see the good and the bad and criticize any brand.
I'm not saying it won't be a beast, it will be, but with the 780s that are being seen at 400€ and the titans, this price performance doesn't add up to me.
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I would appreciate it if you didn't come here doing the job of an AMD CM, pretending to slip in false things like artificially inflated prices:
http://www.pccomponentes.com/gigabyte_geforce_gtx_780ti_3gb_gddr5.html
http://www.pccomponentes.com/evga_geforce_gtx_780_ti_3gb_gddr5.html
http://www.pccomponentes.com/evga_geforce_gtx_780_ti_superclocked_3gb_gddr5.html
NONE of the GTX 780 Ti that appear on PCcomponentes have that price you say, and while the MSRP is 699$, DOLLARS are not EUROS, in the same way that the R9 290 DOES NOT cost 400€ in the EU despite having an MSRP of 399$.
I know for sure that in the thread where you have already made a copy and paste of someone else's flamer comment, the appearance of the first GTX 780 Ti on PCComp had already been commented on and the price was around 650€, it wasn't the most expensive of the ones I put precisely (which is also the most expensive because it's a version with OC). So please desist in your attitude as an AMD CM, because you're not fooling anyone with the prices, sticking to the reality you've seen (because you've surely seen that in the N3D thread, the price in a Spanish store) is a requirement for you to be taken seriously.
That little more you're talking about for the GTX 780 SLI is about 250€, which is not exactly "a little more", although they are undoubtedly a better investment. But if it were about paying only for what offers the most cost, many high-end cards wouldn't make sense. For those who have the money, the Ti has pretty good reasons to build it, and it's being able to go further by paying more, even if it's not with the same performance/price ratio.
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Good graphics, although honestly I expected more for less. Although of course, you can't ask for pears from an elm tree (nvidia) for them it must have been a very tough decision to stop selling GTX 780 from 550 to 370€ and Titans at 1000€..that's the good thing about competition.Even if it's fictitious, because seriously, the R9 has so many problems in everything, that for now it's not a competitor of anything..but look, it has lowered prices which is what matters..
I, having the TITANs unlocked, won't even bother..it would have to be a debacle for me to comprara.La VRAM,although I don't see a disadvantage, 3GB is more than necessary because you run out of power sooner with it than without it, nor do I see them as excessive compared to the 6GB of TITAN and I who mount 4, I could notice something in the future..
What I would like to see is those TI under water and with the mod, they will surely blow at 1400MHZ..let's just say, they will sweep everything with that V02 chip they have..
Regarding Juanjo...we all know what he's up to, don't pay attention..you'll catch a liar sooner than a cripple.I hope Krampak takes note that the problem isn't the way, but the bad atmosphere...
Best regards.
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Buena gráfica,aunque sinceramente esperaba mas por menos.Aunque claro,es que tampoco se les puede pedir peras al olmo(nvidia) para ellos ha tenido que ser un palo muy fuerte dejar de vender GTX 780 de 550 a 370€ y Titanes a 1000€..es lo bueno de la competencia.Aunque sea ficiticia,porque siendo serios,la R9 tiene tantos problemas en todo,que de momento no es competencia de nada..pero mira,ha bajado precios que lo que interesa..
Yo teniendo las TITAN desblquedadas ni me voy a molestar..tendría que ocurrir una debacle para que me las comprara.La VRAM,aunque no le veo inconveniente,3GB es mas que lo necesario pues te quedas antes si potencia quesin ella,tampoco se me andan sobradas comparadas con las 6 de TITAN y yo que monto 4,si podría notar algo en futuro..
Lo que si me gustaría ver esas TI bajo agua y con el mod,soplan seguro a 1400MHZ..vamos,que ván a a barrer con todo con ese chip V02 que llevan..
Respecto a Juanjo…ya sabemos todos de que vá,ni caso..se le pilla antes a un cojo que a un mentiroso.Espero que Krampak tome nota de que el problema no són las formas,sino el mal ambiente...
Un saludo.
Hombre, qué quieres que te diga, a mí me sorprende que nvidia se atreviera a usar un GK110 completo (bueno, no del todo, ya en su momento dije que había unas buenas posibilidades de que la Ti fuera justo esto) y además con cambios menores pero que todos suman para hacer algo más que lo estrictamente necesario para mantener la corona de rendimiento (podría coger una GTX 780 y subir frecuenicas y modificar perfil de ventilación para evitar la entrada de throttling, o coges los mismos chips que para Titan y meterlos en la Ti, pero no, chip completo, stepping nuevo, revisión de fases y chips de memoria mejores).
Le saca un 10% aproximadamente a la Titan/290X, lo cual es sacar mucho usando el GK110, sobre todo teniendo en cuenta que tiene, si cabe, un margen de OC impresionante para ser teóricamente la GK110 más "apretada" de fábrica (frecuencias y chip completo):
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_780_Ti/30.html
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_780_ti_review,28.html
Ambos OCs son bastante parecidos, la gpu la ponen entre 1250-1300 reales con el boost (el REAL, no el que el te dice gpu-z que es el mínimo que tiene un modelo dado, pero no el de cada unidad), sin tocar voltajes ni nada raro. Las memos al borde de los 8Gbps.
Es bastante impresionante, porque que un top tenga tanto margen de OC es raro (sí, ya sé que con las Fermi también se cumplió). Esta gráfica es un pepino de stock, pero parece más pepino con el OC metido en la ecuación, un OC que además es perfectamente asequible tal cual viene, sin grandes florituras ni sacrificios de comodidad de uso (nada de ponerse cascos de protección para los oídos).
Está claro que el chip B1 parece que ha mejorado frecuencias en esta gpu, con RL y con algo de sobrevoltaje bien puede haber unidades a esos 1400 que dices, es que coño, ya se pone tal cual vienen casi a 1300 y sin necesidad de PCBs mejorados ni nada.
Teniendo unas Titan, está claro que no tiene mucho sentido el cambio, pero claro, tampoco tenía sentido el salto a las 290X, pero ya sabemos que era por trastear. ;D
Habrá que ver hasta dónde se suben a la parra las versiones de 6 GB para quien quiera curarse en salud o multigpu masivo/super-resoluciones.
Eso sí, tampoco hay que caer en burradas como esta review:
Como supuesta prueba de que hoy en día esos 3GB se pueden quedar cortos… :ugly:
Reviews de tipos que parecen auténticos noobs, parece que no saben que:
1.- El total de VRAM indicado por los medidores de memoria gráfica no representa la necesidad real de una aplicación desde que se instauró windows vista y su modelo de "memoria gráfica unificada".
2.- La parece ignorancia de que muchas gráficas, teniendo VRAM como es el caso, de sobra, usan MAS VRAM igualmente de la necesaria dado que no descartan tan "rápidamente" datos ya no usados (cacheo de datos con X posibilidad de volver a ser llamados en breve por la aplicación, si tienes VRAM vacía, ¿porqué no?).
3.- Aero en sí consume fácilmente unos 200-300 MB.
Vamos, que se han lucido con el experimento. Menos mal que probaban las cosas a 1080p pero con tonteridas como SSAA y alguna mejorilla en el driver como aniso 16x (ah, pero no es obligatorio hoy en día?)... :ugly::ugly::ugly:
