What the hell is wrong with the PC?

[Dante's]

Please forgive me if the topic is in the wrong forum. I don't quite understand what the problem might be

Hello,

I'm leaving a video: (If you can't see the video, let me know).
It might seem silly but it's not.

!

(I will delete the video when the problem is solved)
The darn problem appeared unexpectedly… "Yesterday everything was fine but today, the problem appears for no logical reason".

NOTE (I think this will help visualize the problem better).

1. Before, BF3 ran on Ultra (without Antialiasing of course) and with Vsync enabled it never went below 60FPS (i.e., 60 fixed!). But with the crap problem, every so often with the same settings, you notice "stutters" (60FPS - 52FPS). In enclosed spaces these stutters are somewhat "smoother" but in open spaces, from 60FPS - 15FPS! Unfortunately, putting everything to Minimum - Same thing! Stutters and drops. ¬¬ Stuttering?
2. L4D2 with graphics settings at maximum (Vsync Enabled) - It never goes below 60 and you don't notice any "stutters". Everything is as it should be. How is this possible? :mudo:
3. Skyrim with graphics settings at maximum (Vsync Enabled) - In an enclosed space there is no "lag". Then when you go "outside" and start moving the camera from side to side non-stop, from 60FPS to 4FPS! A tremendous lag that can last 10 seconds or more. Then after those 10s, the 60FPS return. But when you start spinning the camera again left and right, the same crap happens :facepalm:. Stuttering? (Before it "ran like silk", those 60 FPS were solid).

Is it a Hardware problem (hard drive, ram, graphics card…) or a Software problem (Operating System, drivers…)?
I think it's because of the Hard Drive or the Graphics drivers…(?) The truth is that I can't say anything for sure since I'm not an "expert" in all this :ugly:

Once I thought it was an OS problem, so I decided to reinstall Windows 7 and even twice (PC format). I thought that this way the problem would be solved but NOTHING! The problem wasn't solved.

I hope you can help me solve this darn problem. At least understand what it's about.
**Thank you very much for your time!

Best regards.

[Yorus]

First of all, congratulations on how you've worked on the video, you seem to be skilled at these things

I would rule out the hard drive issue, because if it worked too much or got stuck, it wouldn't make the graphics card work too much, rather the opposite, as it would act as a bottleneck.

It seems more like a graphics issue, although it's hard to know if it's hardware or software. As you mentioned, I would try with another version of the drivers, and even disable desktop effects by setting the basic theme of Windows 7 to see if it behaves the same way.

I would rule out other hardware elements besides the graphics card. For example, the memory, which if it fails, usually doesn't slow down the computer, but rather would cause crashes, reboots, and unexpected errors in programs. The same for the micro, unless it was a temperature problem, because I haven't seen that data in the video and the GPU temperature is normal.

Best regards.

[whoololon]

If it was working fine before, we start by ruling out hardware problems, which leads me to assume that "something" has been overlooked.
The issue of drivers, I always recommend keeping the file of the first ones that were installed, or the ones that already came with the computer, and this extends to all drivers.
It is also interesting to remember that, despite the amount of RAM that is usually installed these days, a good configuration of the swap file (fixed size, approx. 4.5 GB, and on another hard drive to avoid having to read and write at the same time...) speeds up certain processes a lot.
XD

[Dante's]

@Yorus:

Before anything, my congratulations on how you've worked on the video, you seem to have skill with these things

I would rule out the hard drive issue, because if it worked too much or got stuck, it wouldn't make the graphics card work harder, rather the opposite, since it would act as a bottleneck.

It seems more like a graphics issue, although it's hard to know if it's hardware or software. As you yourself have mentioned, I would try with another version of the drivers, and even disable desktop effects by setting the basic Windows 7 theme to see if it behaves the same way.

I would rule out other hardware elements besides the graphics card. For example, the memory, which, if it fails, usually doesn't make the computer slower, but rather would cause crashes, reboots, and unexpected errors in programs. The same goes for the micro, unless it was a temperature problem, because I haven't seen that data in the video and the GPU temperature is normal.

Best regards.

@whoololon:

If it was working well before, we start by ruling out hardware problems, which leads me to assume that "something" has been overlooked.
The driver issue, I always recommend keeping the file of the first ones that were installed, or the ones that came with the computer, and this extends to all drivers.
It's also interesting to remember that, despite the amount of RAM that is usually installed today, a good configuration of the swap file (fixed size, approx. 4.5 GB, and on another hard drive to avoid having to read and write at the same time...) speeds up certain processes a lot.
XD

I apologize for not replying on time. I was a bit busy.

Many thanks Yorus, whoololon, I really appreciate this kind of help.

Anyway, this is what I did.

1. I disabled all Win7 effects, even put the basic/classic Windows theme and nothing without good results (Everything stayed the same).
2. I decided to clean the whole PC by dismantling absolutely everything (Graphics Card, Cooler etc...) in order to remove the damn dust - It didn't help.
3. Then I said, "to hell with it!". I uninstalled EVERYTHING related to AMD, Catalyst and installed the latest drivers that had just come out (20/12/13) - It helped solve most of the problem. That is, now there's no longer that "problem with images" as could be seen in the video and the problems with different games have disappeared.

BUT the "mouse cursor" problem that I didn't mention above doesn't want to be solved.

For example, when I run a program (this can be the browser or any other program) and it's loading, if I move the mouse cursor from side to side, it starts to move jerkily. Then when the program is already running and ready to be used, the smoothness of the cursor movement - Returns to normal (I don't know if I explained myself).

NOTE
After deleting all drivers related to the graphics card - I didn't notice this problem. The mouse cursor always moved with SMOOTHNESS.
And here I install the latest AMD drivers - The cursor problem appears.
I don't know if some people have this kind of phenomena.

After all, this is because of the graphics drivers (Conflict between drivers)....I think.

Regards and thanks.

[Sylver]

Hello

I don't remember if you mentioned it, but... have you tried with another graphics card? ATI/AMD if possible, to be sure that it's not some small problem with yours.

You mentioned that it could be the hard drive, and it seemed possible to me since I had a similar problem, it was a hard drive that was failing, due to some kind of read error, and every so often (half a minute or so) the system slowed down and the mouse went jerky like you mentioned, although if you say that you have uninstalled all the drivers and programs related to AMD and it disappeared, I guess they were the culprits.

One thing I would do (and that I had to do at the time until ATI released the last Catalyst this year) would be to look for even older drivers than the first ones you had from the graphics card, and try testing versions one by one, until you find one that doesn't fail. It seems absurd and a bit heavy that it should be solved, but at the time it was necessary for me for the full HD resolution and to be able to have crossfire X activated.

Regards

[Dante's]

@Sylver:

Hello

I don't remember if you mentioned it, but… have you tried with another graphics card? ATI/AMD if possible, to be sure that it's not some small problem with yours.

You mentioned that it could be the hard drive, and it seemed possible to me since I had a similar problem, it was a hard drive that was failing, due to some kind of read error, and every so often (half a minute or so) the system slowed down and the mouse went jerky like you mentioned, although if you say that you uninstalled all the drivers and programs related to AMD and it disappeared, I guess they were the culprits.

One thing I would do (and that I had to do at the time until ATI released the last Catalyst this year) would be to look for drivers that are even older than the first ones you had from the graphics card, and try versions one by one, until you find one that doesn't fail. It seems absurd and a bit heavy that it should be resolved, but at the time it was necessary for me for full HD resolution and to be able to have crossfire X activated.

Regards

I don't have the possibility to try with another graphics card. Well, after all - The mouse problem disappeared ("Magic?") :ugly:
I no longer notice "jerks" when loading a program or something similar.

By the way:

"Owning a PC and keeping it healthy - It's not easy".

Thanks for your response dude…

Regards.

[Sylver]

@Dante's:

I don't have the opportunity to test with another graphics card. Well, after all - The mouse problem disappeared ("Magic art?") :ugly:
I no longer notice "jerks" when loading a program or something similar.

Thanks for your response, bro...

Best regards.

You're welcome, that's what we're here for.

It was probably the drivers, because it is known that the graphics card works correctly.

@Dante's:

By the way:

"Owning a PC and keeping it healthy - It's not easy".

Don't believe it, that's usually the mindset of people who have had bad luck with components (factory defects, sudden component death, etc.) or who have had the misfortune of chaining several software failures, but the reality is that if something has been correctly manufactured and the appropriate drivers are possessed, maintenance is very simple. Fortunately, the community is large, and among all the members, possible small incidents are becoming known and solutions come out almost automatically.

Best regards

[Dante's]

@Sylver:

No hay de que, para eso estamos.

Probably it was the drivers, because it is known that the graphics work correctly.

Don't believe it, that's usually what people think who have had bad luck with components (factory defects, sudden component death, etc.) or who have had the bad luck to chain several software failures, but the reality is that if something has been correctly manufactured and you have the appropriate drivers, maintenance is very simple. Fortunately, the community is large, and among all the members, possible small incidents are known and solutions come out almost automatically.

Regards

Well look, you are absolutely right.