Battle of the titans "780 ti Vs 290x" first results.

[ELP3]

@vmanuelgm:

Both the svl7 and skyn3t are the first versions of the 780ti.

In the coming months we will see new versions of the assemblers to work on, and they will do their own reviews.

Right now, and it is being corroborated by other users, the svl7 bios, although it does not allow as much power target, is more stable and does not produce artifacts at the maximum overclock of the card at 1.21v.

We will see how things evolve, and whether it is possible to unlock the voltage soon.

Best regards.

Honestly, I like the slv7 bios better because they are more neutral than the Skynet ones. But of course, both in the 780Ti and in the TITAN this is true, with overvoltage, I am limited by the TPD. And the slv7s cap that sooner.. but they really go finer if.

Best regards to you too..;)

P.D. And already to play eh? you can't live on firestrike.. or at least, we can't..jeje

[fjavi]

wwwendigo, I know it was either GPU-Z or Everest or AIDA, that we had to use a newer one, but the news was red screen of death, all very sensationalist.

Now there are many R9s affected by black screens, they don't die but it's annoying, the thing with the flickering in videos or similar things, that's not given as news and you see people suffering from it in the forums, although mine happened in the 7000 series.

None are free of faults, I know someone whose 780 died after two days, some 770s have come out with problems for having such fast memory and they give graphic faults in games, there's always something defective whether it's graphics or motherboards, but if there are few cases then it's not worth giving importance, if you already see many cases that's when you should be careful.

I leave here the Topic that they will tell us something.

Greetings

[ConanR]

Well, after the EVGA SC turned out to be a dud, today I received a GB to pair with the other one I already had, and after messing around with them, SLI at 1310-1980:

[ELP3]

@ConanR:

Well, after the EVGA SC turned out to be a frog, today I received a GB to pair with the other one I already had, messing around with them, SLI at 1310-1980:

Congratulations.. the truth is that 1310MHZ with two in the air is admirable..

But you still have a little way to go to catch up with my TITANs...;)

Best regards.

[ConanR]

Yes, a piece up to your titan, but few like yours are there

So much power to then find games like AC4 that don't even use half the graphics xD

[fjavi]

@ConanR:

Si, a piece up to your titan, but few like yours are there

So much power for then to find games like AC4 that don't even use half the graphics xD

For me, AC4 uses the 780 very well, sometimes putting it at more than 90% with vsync, although at the beginning of the game it was very unstable, what I did was put the executable in the driver, because with Steam or Origin Uplay sometimes don't recognize the executables well, I put adaptive Vsync and triple buffer from the driver and put HT to the CPU that had it without HT and it improved a lot, now it's playable pretty well, although sometimes it doesn't maintain 60fps but it's rare that it goes below 55.

It's also strange that the EVGA with 85% ASIC turned out to be a frog, I suppose that some may not comply but I think that most with better ASIC usually overclock better and have a higher boost from the factory, at least with 780 and Titan also with 600 series it usually complies.

regards

[ConanR]

It's been a while since I checked for new bios, but there must be something, here's one that got over 9400 points in graphics score on a 780ti in 3dmark11 extreme: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3930K Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE IV EXTREME Best regards! Edit: and I'll take this opportunity, this time both at 1320-1975

[gamingpy]

@ConanR:

It's been a while since I checked for new bios, but there must be something, here's one that got over 9400 points in graphics score on a 780ti in 3dmark11 extreme:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3930K Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. RAMPAGE IV EXTREME

Saludos!

Edito: and I'll take this opportunity, this time both at 1320-1975

Disculpa… de donde has conseguido la bios modificada?? techpower

[fjavi]

@gamingpy:

Disculpa… de donde has conseguido la bios modificada?? techpower

Supongo que de aquí, debes elegir el modelo tuyo veo una EVGA SC ACX esta
GTX 780 EVGA SC ACX
80.80.30.00.80

esa supongo que debes elegir.

[Official] NVIDIA GTX 780 Ti Owner's Club

pero debes elegir según tu modelo.

saludos

[gamingpy]

@fjavi:

I guess from here, you should choose the model you see an EVGA SC ACX here
EVGA SC ACX GTX 780
80.80.30.00.80

that I guess you should choose.

[Official] NVIDIA GTX 780 Ti Owner's Club

but you should choose according to your model.

regards

Thanks fjavi I'm thinking about trying svl7's modified bios to see how it goes? to see if I can reach 1300 well.

[ELP3]

Well, now that you've reminded me about the modified bios, I thought of overclocking to the max voltage, which can give one of my TITANs and the truth is, it's still surprising, although obviously that voltage while maintaining very good core and VRM temps is not at all advisable, but for testing the limit I found this:

It's a unigine in Preset X.. that is, not at 1080p, but at 1600X900… a very low resolution, but that doesn't make the result any less surprising, it simply crushes any existing monogpu and surpasses duals without too many problems.. I keep being surprised by these TITANs. And of course I look forward to, although honestly every day I doubt it more, that this soft-mod can reach the 780Ti to see then what they are really capable of without going to those bestial Kinping edition ones etc.. Regards.

[fjavi]

You beat me by 20 or 25% in that benchmark, I run it with OC 100% stable for gaming, without touching voltage, with conservative OC I don't touch voltage or power target, yesterday I was playing Crysis 3 at 1254 MHz and the graphics card holds up perfectly, but here I do more conservative OC, I know that in that benchmark it influences the SP and the factory power and it's difficult to get close to higher graphics cards, the 780Ti thing is strange and if they released it with the full potential it would surely stand out, if I could do that frequency with voltage, I would have to throw in that benchmark. The 780Ti may be capped by phases and that's why they haven't released anything to increase the voltage and in this TSMC 28nm process it seems that the voltage allows for more, possibly that's why there are no more news of burned graphics cards. let's see if I change the equipment because this one has already served its time, although it still works well. regards

[ELP3]

@fjavi:

You beat me by 20 or 25% in that benchmark, I run it with OC 100% stable for gaming, without touching voltage, with conservative OC I don't touch voltage or power target, just yesterday I was playing Crysis 3 at 1254 MHz and the graphics card holds up perfectly, but here I do more conservative OC, I know that in that benchmark it's influenced by the SP and the factory power and it's difficult to get close to higher graphics cards, the 780Ti thing is strange and if they released it with full potential it would surely stand out, if I could do that frequency with voltage, I would have to throw in that benchmark.

The 780Ti may be capped by phases and that's why they haven't released anything to raise the voltage and in this TSMC 28nm process it seems that the voltage allows for more, possibly that's why there's no more news of burned graphics cards.

let's see if I change equipment because this one has already served its time, although it still works well.

regards

You beat me exactly by 27.5%..hehe but it's normal, I'm at 1400MHz and you're not..besides that bench is a bit limited by the resolution.

I have no problems playing at 1300MHz on the 4 without going over 1.3V, and if it's with 2, I can even afford stable OCs of 1350MHz with the same voltage.Obviously I don't like going over that voltage figure except for benchmarks.But even with 1.4V and 1400MHz it doesn't go over 40º and the VRM's are at 55º by probe so...but what's clear is that although the temps are good when running at RL and everything is very well protected, everything has a voltage limit that is not temperature, and although I suppose they could hold 1.45V for a moment, I don't feel like frying anything.

However, from what I've read, the point of no return is 1.5V.There the NCP says enough and it's very possible that it will explode no matter what cooling you have..

What is certain is that with this MSI trick, the GK110 has acquired a longevity never before seen in a graphics card.And with up to a 40% increase in performance, with the power they already have, they become graphics cards like these eternal ones like the GTX 480 that can last many years giving it their all without considering a change only when they have really passed 1 or 2 complete generations, like you did..

regards.

[gamingpy]

@ELP3:

What is true is that with this MSI trick, the GK110 has acquired a longevity never before seen in a graphics card. And with an increase of up to 40% in performance, with the power they already have, they become graphics cards like the sempiternal GTX 480 that can last many years without considering a change, only when 1 or 2 complete generations have really passed, like you did...
Best regards.

Do you mean that with the MSI Afterburner you can get more performance when doing an OC to any video card manufacturer, what do you mean when you say with the trick?

Regards

[fjavi]

@ELP3:

I get exactly 27.5%..hehe but it's normal, I'm at 1400MHZ and you're not..besides that, that bench is a bit limited by the resolution.

I have no problems playing at 1300MHZ on the 4 without going over 1.3V, and if it's with 2, I can even afford stable OCs of 1350MHZ with the same voltage.Obviously I don't like going over that voltage figure except for benches.But even with 1.4V and 1400MHZ it doesn't go over 40º Y the VRMs are 55º by probe so...but what is clear is that although the temps are good when running at RL and everything is very well protected,everything has a voltage limit that is not a temperature limit,and although I suppose they could hold 1.45V for a moment for a few minutes,I don't feel like ruining anything.

However, from what I've read,the point of no return is 1.5V.There the NCP says enough and it's very possible that it will explode no matter what cooling you have..

What is true is that certainly with this trick of the MSI,the GK110 has acquired a longevity never before seen in a graphics card.And is that an increase of up to 40% in performance,with the power they already have,turns them into graphics cards like these sempiternal ones like the GTX 480 that can last many years giving it their all without considering a change only when they have really passed 1 or 2 complete generations,like you did..

Best regards.

I was referring more to burned 780ti's which is rare that after the news from China before they came out we haven't seen more cases, maybe Nvidia was right in saying that they had gone out of the authorized or reference model, but EVGA seems to have been allowed in the end.

With the 780 if it had RL and could put voltage if I think I could hold up with much higher frequencies, but to be the reference bios model and without voltage I think it's not bad, as some say that the 290x pulls even more than the 780Ti, so I see it's going to be hard for it to even surpass a 780, because even if it's a reference like it does with the bios and that crazy thing it goes to more than 1300, that's talking about a regular one with regular ASIC, without changing the heatsink or going to RL.

But I like this that I can go up without having to change heatsinks or have to change much of the card so far the maximum I've put for gaming is those 1254 MHz, normally I'm already satisfied with the frequency that it sets itself with boost, if later I need more I will try to put a bios and voltage.

Best regards

@gamingpy:

Do you mean that with the msi afterburner you can get more performance when doing an oc on any video manufacturer, what do you mean when you say with the trick?

Best regards

Not in your graphics card, with the Titan and the 780 based on reference models you can do a trick to raise the voltage more, the 780Ti although it says it unlocks at 1.30v it's not real and in the end it only allows 1.21v.
As they can't find a way to be able to raise the voltage in the 780Ti it won't be able to go up anymore, if that card allowed voltage it should go up well, they already go up well with 1.21v.

Best regards

[gamingpy]

@fjavi:

I was referring more to the burned 780ti, which is rare that after the news from China before release we haven't seen more cases, maybe Nvidia was right in saying that they had gone out of the authorized or reference model, but EVGA seems to have allowed it in the end.

With the 780 if it had RL and I could put voltage if I think I could hold up with much higher frequencies, but to be the series model with series bios and without voltage I think it's not bad, as some say that the 290x pulls even more than the 780Ti, so I see it will cost him to even surpass a 780, because even if it's a reference like he does the bios thing and that zakarudo goes to more than 1300, that's talking about a regular one with regular ASIC, without changing the heatsink or going to RL.

But I like this that I can go up without having to change heatsinks or have to change much of the card so far the maximum I've put for gaming is those 1254 MHz, normally I'm already satisfied with the frequency that it puts itself with boost, if later I need more I will try to put bios and voltage.

Regards

The truth is that I see it pretty good fjavi to reach 1245 not all the graphics reach that level at least in my case when I had the reference gtx 780 it reached a maximum of 1150 without artifics then it was a matter of raising voltage to give it more cane, bios without modifying

[fjavi]

@gamingpy:

The truth is that I see it quite well fjavi to reach 1245 not all graphics reach that level at least in my case when I had the reference gtx 780 it reached a maximum of 1150 without artifics then it was a matter of raising the voltage to give it more power

If the cards change a lot depending on how each one comes out, this one with factory bios and that only applies 1,175v maximum passes benchmark at 1293 and no artifacts come out, well if I raise the memory a lot some artifact comes out but it's due to lack of voltage, but this one sets itself to 1124 MHz just as it comes from the factory its boost is 1124 although it says 1006 in reality it sets to more, that's why it's normal to be able to raise it a little more.

regards

[Piccolo]

Maybe someone can help me, I have an EVGA 780GTX.
I put a skynet bios and everything is perfect, base 1019mhz but now even if I increase the speed in the Evga precision or Msi Afterburner it doesn't apply.
I put the bios of the Chill which is at 1089mhz base and everything is correct but it also doesn't apply the frequency increase with the evga or afterburner.

[fjavi]

@Piccolo:

Maybe someone can help me, I have an EVGA 780 gtx.
I put a skynet bios and everything was perfect, base 1019mhz but now even if I increase the speed in the Evga precision or Msi Afterburner it doesn't apply.
I put the bios from the Chill which is at 1089mhz base and everything correct but it also doesn't apply the frequency increase with the evga or afterburner.

Have you removed the protection?
I mean that EVGA you have to do two flashes one to remove the protection and then flash, enter two commands. I mean this command nvflash –protectoff

I would put an EVGA bios which are the most common, I wouldn't put one from another brand you have to remove the protection, I would put a bios that is as similar as possible to yours but modified, my one which is from Gigabyte says 80.10.3A.00.2C, so I would look for that reference of course the original bios that came with it, because now some cards are B1 and can come with different memory brands, so the best thing is a modified bios like your original one, with so many models it's a mess to find it but they have revisions where Sk3net and EVGA should be easier because there are many, it must be for your graphics model and with a similar reference.

This post talks about flashing the EVGA and maybe that one has better bios.

http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1891166
But it is recommended to put a bios from your brand and model, if it has the same reference better because it can change the latency of the memories, especially if they are from a different brand or different revision.

That is for Titan but the flashing is the same it's just using a bios from your graphics card if it's the same model better, the 80.80 I think are B1 if your graphics card is not B1 don't use that bios and vice versa, if it's B1 you should put the 80.80
http://www.overclock.net/t/1393791/official-nvidia-gtx-780-owners-club

regards

[Piccolo]

If I don't remove the protection how am I going to flash? :ugly:
Mine is B1 and I downloaded a bios from that section of Skyn3t, not from my exact model but I downloaded a bios of Inno3D GTX 780 iChill Herculez X3 B1
Well I tried several bios and nothing, they didn't increase the frequencies after flashing so in the end I downloaded the KeplerBiosTweaker and took the modified bios and put the base frequencies that interested me and that was it.