Test of the Real Nvidia Gtx Titan, single-sli-tri Sli, 4 WAY SLI
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And so... It seems like she pulls more on her own than my CF
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Hello Don Alkermes...;) a pleasure, as always..
The truth is that yes. For the first time in a long time, I believe I will be very quiet until at least the arrival, I imagine at least a year, of the GM110. And perhaps, DX12.
With the voltage unlock trick, and RL of course, there are graphics for a LOT of time moving everything to the maximum.
A hug.
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A while ago, yes. I hope everything goes well I'm a bit disenchanted, to be honest. I don't see a "real" improvement that would make me switch from the 980x and the CF 7970... I don't see it in Intel and even less in AMD. On a graphical level, yes, there is, but there's no need to do it, because there's no software that requires it. We'll wait for DDR4 and the new sockets Sent from my GameBoy using Tapatalk 2
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Hombre Don Alkermes…;) un placer,como siempre..
La verdad es que sí.Yo por primera vez en mucho tiempo,creo que me voy a estar muy quieto hasta por los menos la llegada,imagino que por lo menos un año,del GM110.Y Quizás,DX12.
Con el truco del desbloqueo de voltaje,y RL claro,hay gráficas para MUCHO tiempo moviéndolo todo al máximo.
Un abrazo.
Tanto tiempo crees que tardaran la nueva generación de gráficas potentes (Maxwell) yo adicionalmente al DX12 espero conector hdmi 2.0 para poder conectar la misma a TV 4K 60Hz.-
Saludos.-
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A while ago, yes. I hope everything goes well
I'm a bit disappointed, to be honest. I don't see a "real" improvement that would make me switch from the 980x and the CF of 7970… I don't see it in Intel and even less in AMD.
There is an improvement at the graphic level, but there's no need for it, because there's no software that requires it.
We'll wait for DDR4 and the new sockets
With its pros and cons, but here we go, I hope everything goes great for you.
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Need, need not tienes.Si the 980X works and the CF doesn't give you headaches, you don't need to. It's always better to wait for what's coming. Now, if I tell you that a Haswell of the upcoming ones in April, with fewer cores but with much higher IPC, gives the 980X a run for its money. At least in most current games, in the upcoming ones I don't know, because they're always promising not sure how much utilization of the cores and then if it comes prepared even if it's for multi-thread, you have to be grateful.. that are 3 or 4.. another thing is if you want it for "work".
How long do you think the new generation of powerful graphics (Maxwell) will take? I, in addition to DX12, hope for an HDMI 2.0 connector to be able to connect it to a 4K 60Hz TV.-
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As the 20nm are, I think we won't have the GM104 until Summer. Seeing how the 28nm of the GM107 are looking, they're going to do it very well but… it's still the same story as always. Mid-range at high-end prices taking advantage of their positioning in terms of performance in the market. And then I'd add at least another 6 months for the big ones.. that is, I do believe it's possible that for the GM100 or 110, we might be waiting almost 10 to 12 months.
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The problem is that, the one of the cores aprovisioning, that doesn't take off... Like with 64 bits.
And it's not because of the draw calls or other things, it's because they can't get out of the same ones. I can understand that it's complicated, that they don't have the physical time to do it and that the budget for a game is limited, but they're already taking us for a ride.
Perhaps the hope was Mantle, but at the pace it's going, DX12 will come out before, which is expected to be done from scratch and be a very important change, so the graphics that will really mean a before and after will be the ones that support it, that is, the ones after Maxwell.
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The problem is that, the one about the cores' aprovisioning, that doesn't take off... Like with 64 bits.
And it's not about the draw calls or other things, it's because they can't get out of the same ones. I can understand that it's complicated, that they don't have the physical time to do it and that the budget for a game is limited, but they're already taking us for a ride.
Perhaps the hope was Mantle, but at the pace it's going, DX12 will come out before, which is expected to be made from scratch and be a very important change, so the graphics that will really make a before and after will be the ones that support it, that is, the ones after Maxwell.
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Certainly.
But I do think that it's very possible that the big Maxwells, because of the time they still have left for their release, could well be compatible with DX12.
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Yes, it is possible… They have time, and AMD still has a chance to make a move.
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As things stand with the 20nm, I think we won't have the GM104 until summer. Seeing how the 28nm GM107s are turning out, they're going to do a great job but... it's still the same story as always. Mid-range at high-end prices, taking advantage of their performance positioning in the market. And then I'd add at least another 6 months for the big ones.. that is, I think it's possible that for the GM100 or 110, we're looking at almost 10 to 12 months.
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So we'll just have to enjoy our current graphics cards, which have a lot of life left in them.
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A little bit bored tonight, I've pulled the covers over my head and decided to go from 1.40V to see how the little one behaved... and the truth is, you wouldn't see the cannon that the "old" TITAN is, even in things that, in principle, are not what best suits it like the firestrike Performance, but 1430MHz are many MHz..jeje
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The new Titan seems to have the same phases as the 780ti, that OC balancing that although Nvidia says it makes OC easier, I doubt it quite a bit, they also said that boost 2 was only for temperature and it's false.
Possibly the new one has the same problem as the Ti and doesn't apply extra voltage, that's why it's hard for it to reach those frequencies.
P.D. don't go too crazy with the voltage, they should last you.
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How long do you think it will take for the new generation of powerful graphics cards (Maxwell) to come out? I, in addition to DX12, hope for an HDMI 2.0 connector to be able to connect it to a 4K 60Hz TV.-
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Everything points to them repeating the Kepler move, GM204 as 870 and 880 and maybe February or March of next year, maybe more, they'll release a GM200 or 210, with the GM107 as 750ti and at 28nm, you can already see the feathers, they'll release a cut GM206 as 850Ti and between GM206 and GM204 they'll release the whole range.
Months later, with the 20nm process more polished, they'll probably go for the high end and release some cards.
Unless AMD does something surprising in 20nm, it looks bad, and seeing the Watio performance they get with that GM107 in 28nm, it seems that AMD will have to improve that aspect of consumption a lot to compete against Maxwell.
Who knows, maybe in 20nm and GCN 2 they can improve, but Nvidia seems to improve quite a bit from Kepler, using the same 28nm process.regards
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With sli of Titan with bios of Skynet rev2 to 1006 Mhz they will hold up well for a couple of years I have the feeling
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With sli of Titan with bios of Skynet rev2 to 1006 Mhz they will hold up well for a couple of years I have the feeling
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If they hold two 480 for more than 3 years and let's not forget that it was the first generation of Nvidia Dx11, two Titans should hold up just as well or better, and more so considering that the new consoles are not the best.
I would because for playing at 1080p I think it's too much to put two 780s but otherwise they would last a long time, but at 1080p I play pretty well with the 780, although in some games I can't put many filters I don't care, I put them all on Ultra.
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Everything points to them repeating the Kepler move, GM204 as 870 and 880 and maybe in February or March of next year they will release a GM200 or 210, with the GM107 as 750ti and at 28nm it's already a done deal, they will release a cut down GM206 as 850Ti and between GM206 and GM204 they will release the whole range.
Months later with the 20nm process more polished they will probably go for high end and release some cards.
Unless AMD does something surprising in 20nm it looks bad, and seeing the Watio performance they get with that GM107 at 28nm it seems that AMD will have to improve that aspect of consumption a lot to compete against Maxwell.
We'll see, maybe in 20nm and GCN 2 they can improve but Nvidia seems to improve quite a bit from Kepler, using the same 28nm process.regards
In the short term I will need power to run 4K (it's already decided I'm just waiting for the new generation of TVs) and a Titan seems impossible for me due to the current price in my country being 85% more than what I paid when I bought it and the lack of hdmi 2.0 puts me off so I rule out doing an SLI and I was hoping for something powerful in the new generation
Although they are also looking at 4K monitors but generally in the high end range to my country only the Dell ones arrive and to be honest I'm looking for a 28" and the one that came out in the market I find unappealing.-
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With Titan sli with Skynet rev2 bios at 1006 Mhz they will hold up well for a couple of years I have the feeling
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There's no doubt they will hold up well in all resolutions maybe they will struggle at 2160p but those will be rare cases.-
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In the short term I will need power to move 4K (it's already decided I'm just waiting for the new generation of TVs) and a Titan seems impossible for me at the current price in my country being 85% more than what I paid when I bought it and the lack of HDMI 2.0 throws me back so I rule out doing an SLI and I was waiting for something powerful in the new generation
Although monitors are also being considered 4K but generally in the high range to my country only Dell arrive and the truth is I'm looking for 28" and the one that came out to the market seems to me to be of little interest.
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There is no doubt that they will defend themselves well in all resolutions perhaps they will falter at 2160p but they will be rare cases.
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I'm always thinking about changing my monitor, but it holds me back to think that if I put more resolution I will need more graphics power, that's why now that with 4K it seems that they are lowering the others I keep waiting for them to lower more and also to see if more powerful cards come out.
The 780 works very well for me at 1080p although my monitor is a piece of junk, with one of 2560x1440 I know I would last a few years, I now see 4K as green, I hope that over time they will lower in price and above all better panels will appear, that the refresh rate will improve.
Now here I see that TVs are lowering, especially 1080p Led and 3D and I'm thinking about putting one, although for gaming I prefer a monitor with a good panel and a resolution of 1440p or 1600p, with one of those I would already be happy.
P.D I already saw that over there they are raising prices, I saw some 650Ti worth what a 760 or 770 costs here, it's very unfair.
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I'm always thinking about changing my monitor, but I'm held back by the thought that if I go for a higher resolution, I'll need more graphics power, so now that 4K seems to be getting cheaper, I'm still waiting for prices to drop even more and for more powerful cards to come out.
The 780 works great for me at 1080p even though my monitor is terrible. With a 2560x1440 monitor, I know it would last me a few years. I can now run 4K smoothly, so I'm waiting for prices to drop and for better panels to come out, with higher refresh rates.
Now I see that TVs are getting cheaper, especially 1080p LED and 3D ones, and I'm thinking about getting one, although for gaming I prefer a monitor with a good panel and a resolution of 1440p or 1600p. With one of those, I'd be happy.
P.D. I've noticed that prices are going up over there. I saw some 650Ti cards being sold for what a 760 or 770 costs here, which is very unfair.
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The 780 would perform very well at 1440p. It has nothing to envy to the Titan (although the latter is a bit more powerful).
I played for many years on a 1080p TV and when I switched to 1440p, there's no comparison. My Dell 2713HM has been retired :llorar: and now I'm managing with an LG 23EA53V with incredible quality/price (I can't complain), which I bought to last a while.
But I don't want to buy another 1440p monitor because I know it would drive me crazy and then I'd want a 2160p one. I don't get crazy about upgrading my graphics with each generation, but when it comes to TVs, when they make a resolution jump, as you say, today it's a 650Ti and maybe in 6 months or a year it will be a 640 :facepalm:.
So what you buy today in the high end in a year you buy a new mid-range one even though it performs the same as the one you bought a year ago :ugly:
I'm sure that in May/June the new TVs will be out around here and I'll test compatibility with new and old games to see if they're supported and how the Titan performs. I'll post comparisons.
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the 780 would defend itself very well at 1440p it has nothing to envy to the titan (although it yields a little more).
I played many years with the TV 1080p and when I switched to 1440p there is no point of comparison and as my Dell 2713HM passed to a better life :llorar: now I manage with an LG 23EA53V incredible quality/price (I can't complain) that I bought to last a while.
But I can't buy myself a 1440p again because I know it would eat my head and then I would want a 2160p, I don't go crazy updating graphics with each generation but if in TV when they hit a resolution jump and as you rightly say today it's a 650Ti and perhaps in 6 months or 1 year it will be a 640 :facepalm:.
So what you buy today in high-end in 1 year you buy a new one in the mid-range although it yields the same as the one you bought 1 year ago :ugly:
Surely in May/June the new TVs will be out around here and I will test compatibility with new and old games to see if they have support and how the titan performs I will post comparisons.
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But Patagonian, the Dell 2713H (although I prefer the 2711 by far) doesn't have much life in the mercado.Es that is, it would have to be under warranty. What happened so that you couldn't exercise it?
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But the Patagonian, the Dell 2713H (although I prefer the 2711 by far) doesn't have much life in the mercado.Es that is, it would have to be under warranty. What happened that you couldn't exercise it?
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Through carelessness it ended up on the floor, the panel was broken although it still worked, its death was imminent every time the black areas advanced more and it was already impossible to continue using it.-
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By carelessness I ended up on the floor, the panel was broken although it still worked, its death was imminent every time the black areas advanced more and it was already impossible to continue using it.-
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A shame…:(
Greetings.
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the 780 would defend itself very well at 1440p it has nothing to envy to the Titan (although this yields a little more).
I played many years with the TV 1080p and when I switched to 1440p there is no point of comparison and as my Dell 2713HM passed to a better life :llorar: now I manage with an LG 23EA53V incredible quality/price (I can't complain) that I bought to last a while.-
But I can't buy myself a 1440p again because I know it would eat my head and then I would want a 2160p, I don't go crazy updating graphics with each generation but if in TV when they hit a resolution jump and as you rightly say today it's a 650Ti and perhaps in 6 months or 1 year it will be a 640 :facepalm:.
So what you buy today in high-end in 1 year you buy a new one in the middle range although it yields the same as the one you bought 1 year ago :ugly:
Surely in May/June the new TVs will be out around here and I will test compatibility with new and old games to see if they have support and how the Titan performs I will post comparisons.-
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The same graphics will be cheaper there in a few months, even in a few months you will see cheap second-hand Titans, at least when the big Maxwell comes out.
Although perhaps few people have Titans there and those who have it will hold on longer, especially if the graphics are so expensive, here for sure that as soon as the 20nm come out you will see more second-hand Titans and when the big Maxwell comes out cheaper.
although there are people who even though they play, use Titans more for rendering and working with them, it seems that in that aspect the 6Gb is more decisive than the 3 of the 780Ti.P.D don't see it as bad luck that your monitor broke, I have some old ones lying around with the junk and none of them have broken, although they are bad and it won't be a big loss, but one of those would hurt a lot more.
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Such a shame…:(
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The same thing will happen there with the graphics cards in a few months, even in a few months you will see cheap second-hand Titans, at least when the big Maxwell comes out.
Although perhaps few people there have Titans and those who do will hold on longer, especially if the graphics cards are so expensive, here for sure as soon as the 20nm come out you will see more second-hand Titans and when the big Maxwell comes out they will be cheaper.
although I know people who even though they play, use the Titans more for rendering and working with them, it seems that in that aspect the 6Gb is more decisive than the 3 of the 780Ti.P.D don't think it's bad luck that your monitor broke, I have some old ones lying around with the junk and none of them have broken, although they are bad and it won't be a big loss, but one of those would hurt a lot more.
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I don't think there will be any second-hand Titans, I think we are very few and I want something to connect hdmi 2.0 to the future TV.
I can't say anything about the monitor :llorar: I plugged the cables into the stand to leave the room cleaning with a Roomba vacuum cleaner and I forgot to take them down and I moved the table and saw it starting to fall, I touched it but didn't catch it.- :wall:
Such a shame because they are products that are hard to get now, there is no availability of 1440p monitors.
The revenge will be a 2160p.-
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The new Titan seems to have the same phases as the 780ti, that OC balancing that although Nvidia says it makes OC easier, I doubt it quite a bit, they also said that boost 2 was only for temperature and it's false.
Possibly the new one has the same problem as the Ti and doesn't apply extra voltage, that's why it's hard for it to reach those frequencies.
P.D. Don't go too crazy with the voltage, they should last you.
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Everything points to them repeating the Kepler move, GM204 as 870 and 880 and maybe February or March of next year, maybe more, they'll release a GM200 or 210, with the GM107 as 750ti and at 28nm, you can see the writing on the wall, they'll release a trimmed GM206 as 850Ti and between GM206 and GM204 they'll release the whole range.
Months later with the 20nm process more polished, they'll probably go for the high end and release some cards.
Unless AMD does something surprising in 20nm, it looks bad, and seeing the Watio performance they get with that GM107 at 28nm, it seems that AMD will have to improve that consumption aspect a lot to compete against Maxwell.
Maybe in 20nm and GCN 2 they'll manage to improve, but Nvidia seems to improve quite a bit over Kepler, using the same 28nm process.Regards
They won't repeat the move like with Kepler anymore, because for starters they've started with the most basic chip "without cap", the GM107, and also using an "old" manufacturing process.
After that, the issue is much more interesting than it seems, seeing that even if the jump to 20nm would only imply a reduction in die size (approx. 50%), zero benefit in consumption (which I doubt) and zero benefit in frequencies (I'm not saying yes or no there), even under these conditions Nvidia has the ability to create pretty impressive chips:
GM107 at 28 nm-> 148 mm2
GM107 at 20 nm-> 74 mm2Power offered by a GM107 vs a GK104 at full power (GTX 770) -> greater than or equal to 50% of the latter.
And it's just a chip with one GPC, 128-bit bus not squeezed, and 640 SPs (40 TMUs). And 60w consumption. A simple GM106, if it were like this compared to the GK106 and GK107, it would already be beastly (multiply the GM107 design by 3x, in this case, to offer… a performance quite better than the GM104).
I predict that there may be two possible routes for mid-range and mid-high range chips with Maxwell:
Route 1, the "standard" following the same scaling mechanics seen in Kepler:
GM107 1GPC 640 CUs 40 TMUs 16 ROPs 128 bits. 148 mm2 or 74 mm2 (20nm),
GM106 3 GPCs 1920 CUs 120 TMUs 48 ROPs 384 bits. 225 mm2.
GM104 4 GPCs 2560 CUs 160 TMUs 64 ROPs 512 bits. 300 mm2.This would be replicating what we see with Kepler, but I think it's clear that the issue of buses can be cut (and ROPs), maybe up to 256-384-bit versions in the GM104 at most. But power, it can be done (but also save transistors and very complex PCBs by removing some controllers and ROPs in favor of perhaps strengthening other elements, or simply reducing size and consumption).
I think it's clear that the simple GM106 should be substantially more powerful than the current GK104, by a very wide margin. This creates a doubt and a possible different route for releases:
GM106-> launched as a substitute for the GK104, maybe called GM104. Up to 50% faster. 180W maximum.
GM104-> an intermediate product? High-end perhaps close to the GM110 design, or a new "top" based on chips for the performance market. Maybe renamed to something like GM102.
GM100 ¿?¿? Whatever it is, there will likely be important changes compared to what we've seen in Maxwell today with the GM107.
I, who have tested Maxwell intensively with its introductory card, have to say that I'm impressed with what they've achieved with the same manufacturing node and such a Spartan chip. The potential it has is vast. I think that if it came out without SLI support, it's simply to avoid being eaten up by the sales of all GK104-106 with relatively cheap multi-GPU configurations and, above all, Spartan in consumption.
