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    [Review by ELP3] AMD Radeon FURY X

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    • ELP3E Desconectado
      ELP3 @Handrox
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      Yes, but from what I see, the driver is different because the operating system is different. WIN 10.

      I'm not going to put WIN 10 yet.

      It is therefore not known if the improvement is from the driver, or simply from the OS.

      A firestrike is a bench dependent on many cosas.No it is not just a bench of GPU.Es it is a bench of the complete system. Like the use of the CPU.Si WIN 10, it makes better use of this, that may be the gain.

      In fact, in SLI for example, the improvement from using WIN7 to WIN 8 in firestrike. Is encrypted in almost 1500 points... that is... and it is simply due to the improvement of the CPU threads.

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        Handrox @ELP3
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        Hey… look at that..

        AMD Fury X Reviews - Page 27 - AnandTech Forums

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          wwwendigo @Handrox
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          @Handrox:

          Oye… mira eso..

          AMD Fury X Reviews - Page 27 - AnandTech Forums

          Vaya, AMD also sells its Fury X card as a rebranded, it seems to be a hypervitaminated GTX 970 at its core, hehe.

          :osvaisacagar:

          This has to be a joke or a program error. Or that or we have AMD in the same dock as NVIDIA.

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            Handrox @wwwendigo
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            @wwwendigo:

            Wow, AMD also sells its Fury X as a rebranded card, it seems to be a hypervitaminized GTX 970 at its core, hehe.

            :osvaisacagar:

            This has to be a joke or a program error. Or else, we have AMD in the same dock as NVIDIA.

            What raises suspicion is the fact that in many reviews, the Vram usage of the FX didn't go beyond 3500MB and AMD already said that they are making a fix to unload things (data) from the Vram to RAM so as not to fill the 4GB…

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              Javisoft Veteranos HL @Handrox
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              @Handrox:

              What I found suspicious was the fact that in many reviews the use of the FX's Vram did not exceed 3500MB and AMD already said that they are making a fix to unload things (data) from the Vram to RAM and thus not fill the 4GB…

              I already commented that the highest use I had seen in the reviews was 3914 mb of vram in shadows of mordor 4K, what was being talked about in the anandtech forums makes no sense at all.

              The fact of implementing HBM makes the use of MC considerably reduced and therefore there is more space in the die to put shaders (for example), partitioning the vram makes no sense, besides, that benchmark is quite unreliable …

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                Ciclito @wwwendigo
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                @wwwendigo:

                Wow, AMD also sells its Fury X as a rebranded product, it seems to be a hypervitaminized GTX 970 at its core, hehe.

                :osvaisacagar:

                This has to be a joke or a program error. Or else, we have AMD in the same dock as NVIDIA.

                At minute 1':36'' onwards, look at those scratches…:facepalm:

                "Super HMB FuryX power":ugly:… I get around 50 and some fps in GTA V with those settings, smooth as silk. :fumeta:

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                  ELP3 @Ciclito
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                  Interesting. Very interesting.

                  I experienced the same thing in my tests.

                  I didn't comment on anything because I didn't want any controversy, nor was I very sure how the afterburner measured this new graphics card.

                  But certainly, and being aware of the limitations of this program, and more so with AMD as I mentioned before. Starting from 3600mb consumed, the games or benchmarks, had significant scratches, like being short of Vram. Curiously it was from a similar figure to that of the often mentioned GTX 970.

                  That's why I commented that their playable experience was not satisfactory.

                  I don't know exactly where the problem was, but someone hay.Ni knows what the solution is.. I suppose drivers? as always..?

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                    Ciclito @ELP3
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                    It seems that the new drivers are not the solution… It performs just as poorly.

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                      Ciclito @Ciclito
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                      Since I can't edit it, I'm putting it here that I've posted a video.

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                        wwwendigo @Ciclito
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                        One is bad and the other is good regarding the issue of the pump noise, first the bad one:

                        Retail Fury X coolers still whine, don't include fix - The Tech Report

                        Retail AMD Fury X Sound Testing - Pump Whine Investigation | PC Perspective

                        Why do I put two links for the "bad" part? Because both show different things about the same issue, in Techreport they are interested in this:

                        AMD received feedback that during open bench testing some cards emit a mild "whining" noise. This is normal for most high speed liquid cooling pumps; Usually the end user cannot hear the noise as the pumps are installed in the chassis, and the radiator fan is louder than the pump. Since the AMD Radeon R9 FuryX radiator fan is near silent, this pump noise is more noticeable.

                        The issue is limited to a very small batch of initial production samples and we have worked with the manufacturer to improve the acoustic profile of the pump. This problem has been resolved and a fix added to production parts and is not an issue.

                        AMD reported that the pump noise issue had been fixed and only appeared in a few production units of the first batch, before fixing it. It is important to point this out because the reality was different, in basically all reviews and units sold to users, at least Spanish ones, have found said buzzing, that is, it is not limited only to a few production units, as will be clearer when talking about the "good" part.

                        PCPer adds tests with 2 units bought from newegg where they have found the same or worse pump buzzing, you can listen to recordings, etc. So Techreport conveniently points out that AMD said something that was not true, and PCPer demonstrates it.

                        Now the good part:

                        AMD fixes R9 Fury X Whining Noises

                        AMD fixes the error by clearly changing the pump issue without small patches, although this movement is so clear and almost 2 weeks after the model's presentation it is a bit contradictory with their words that assured that the problem was fixed in the units that were going to stores.

                        The bad thing is that you can't distinguish at first sight the good units from the bad ones, since you need to remove the front cover of the card (something that does NOT invalidate the warranty, for those who want to check, know that there is no problem).

                        The error has been definitely recognized and corrected, although it would have been better to have said clearly that it would be corrected in the following days after the launch, not that it was already "done".

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                          Handrox @wwwendigo
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                          jopet.. what a mess is that…

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                            Handrox @Handrox
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                            Someone who has a FuryX and is good at doing some benchmarks with the GPU Clock at 700MHz or 800MHz would be appreciated ? ;D

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                              fjavi @ELP3
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                              @ELP3:

                              Interesting. Very interesting.

                              I experienced the same thing in my tests.

                              I didn't comment on anything because I didn't want any controversy, nor was I very sure how the afterburner measured this new graphics card.

                              But certainly, and being aware of the limitations of this program, and more so with AMD as I mentioned before. Starting from 3600mb consumed, the games or benchmarks, threw up significant scratches, like being out of Vram. Curiously, it was from a similar figure to that of the often mentioned GTX 970.

                              That's why I commented that their playable experience was not satisfactory.

                              I don't know exactly where the problem was, but someone hay.Ni knows what the solution is.. I suppose drivers? as always..?

                              In that GTA video, you can see that when the frame rate drops, it releases vram, in some cases it goes from 3.6 to 2.6 gb, I don't know if the operating system doesn't treat that memory well but the video shows that it releases vram during the frame.

                              If it took advantage of the 4GB, something similar would happen, because you can see that it loads and sometimes reaches 3.7 or close to it and that's when it releases vram, but that card is the one that would need 8gb and not the 390x.
                              Although with one card it won't be able to set those parameters to go to 30 fps or less and you would have to lower some options to go to 60 fps, it would lower consumption, but with two cards or more it will definitely limit that memory.

                              If they keep releasing games that are so voracious of vram, this card is doomed and I thought that even before they released it, that memory seems very green, they need to release with more density and that it's not too expensive.
                              Although if it works well in W10, adding memory, the same thing if it serves them, but I don't think everyone will switch quickly to w10.

                              It could also be a matter of the games releasing the vram, the Titan X seems to be able to locate 8Gb, the 980Ti stores up to 6Gb, and this one releases aa at 3.8gb, the more memory the graphics card has, the more it marks as used, it could be that the games accumulate vram and don't release it until they need it and give the frame.

                              regards

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                                Handrox @fjavi
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                                What do you think about that?

                                Overclockers UK Forums - View Single Post - The Fury(X) Fiji Owners Thread

                                LINK

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                                  Ciclito @Handrox
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                                  ASSASSIN'S CREED UNITY | RADEON FURY X | FRAME PERFORMANCE 1440P | MSAA4X MSAA2X FXAA

                                  ASSASSIN'S CREED UNITY | GTX 980TI | FRAME PERFORMANCE 1440P | MSAA4X

                                  2 WAY-SLI GTX 980 TI G1 GAMING | ASSASSIN'S CREED UNITY | ULTRA HIGH BENCHMARK | 1440P

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                                    Handrox @Ciclito
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                                    Just passing by to say, ELP3 was right. The Furiouses are not that furious.

                                    Check out this REVIEW

                                    Here the channel on YT with the videos.

                                    Best regards.

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                                      fjavi @Handrox
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                                      @Handrox:

                                      Just passing by to say, ELP3 was right. The Furious ones are not that furious.

                                      Check out this REVIEW

                                      Here's the channel on YT with the videos.

                                      Best regards.

                                      how much is that 980? that should go over 1500, that's not an OC model, it must be an oced one, anyway it seems that the 980 performs well with OC.
                                      let's see if I find one for less than 300€, let's see if they release a refresh like the 770, although it doesn't seem like they need it, things are bad for buying graphics cards.

                                      best regards

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                                        Handrox @fjavi
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                                        @fjavi:

                                        how much is that 980? it should go over 1500, that's not an OC model, it must be an oceada, anyway it seems that the 980 performs well with OC.
                                        let's see if I see one for less than 300€, let's see if they release a refresh like the 770, although it doesn't seem like they need it, things are bad for buying graphics.

                                        regards

                                        It's a GTX 980 G1 Fjavi…. It's the same as the review they did..

                                        PS: I want to change my graphics card too, but I'm not willing to pay +300€ for anything, at that price it's complicated to find something that justifies leaving the old GTX 680 ?

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                                          wwwendigo @Handrox
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                                          @Handrox:

                                          It's a GTX 980 G1 Fjavi…. It's the same as the review they did..

                                          PS: I want to change my graphics card too, but I'm not willing to pay +300€ for anything, for that price it's complicated to find something that justifies leaving the old GTX 680 ?

                                          Well, I assure you that the GTX 980 is much faster (mostly because I've gone through a GTX 670, 770 and the 970, and the last jump was quite noticeable), with clarity as well.

                                          Another matter is that this change isn't worth the +300€, which is a personal thing, but I don't see much need to change compulsively either (although I've made the changes before, in no case was it for real "need" but rather for the desire to tinker and see how things were improving, sometimes with the attraction of getting games that I had earmarked anyway, as is the case with the GTX 770).

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                                            Handrox @wwwendigo
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                                            @wwwendigo:

                                            Man, I assure you that the GTX 980 is much faster (mostly because I've gone through a GTX 670, 770 and the 970, and the last jump was noticeable, quite a bit), with clarity as well.

                                            Another matter is that this change isn't worth the +300€ for you, that's a personal thing, but I don't see much need to compulsively change either (although I've made the changes before, in no case was it for real "need" but for the desire to tinker and see how things were improving, sometimes with the attraction of getting games that I had earmarked anyway, like with the GTX 770).

                                            The point is, do you need to change. A while ago I stopped buying and buying with every release, new model or things like that. I stopped at the GTX 680 because it simply responds well to 1080p@60Fps in a large part of the games, leaving out the frame-eating machines already known like Crysis 3, MetroLL/2033 with their absurd and heavy features… Everything goes like silk. But, every now and then the itch gets in and I have to throw the card away to avoid problems with my partner jajajaja

                                            Look at the SOM with its maximum quality + FXAA Only at 1080p. I don't know where the benchtool gets those minimum frames from, I don't see them at any point during the test.

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