Windows 10? what do you think of it

[cobito]

I haven't tried it yet, but I like the approach Microsoft is giving to Windows with its ports to ARM (a shame they abandoned Windows RT). The thing is that today there isn't much left to innovate in operating systems. We see Windows, MacOS, and Linux constantly releasing versions that, at best, include small performance improvements.

The issue of appearance is something too subjective. There are those who like the look of Windows 8 and others who hate it. But the thing is that today an OS is judged exclusively by its appearance, so it's still a relevant issue.

It's curious about the cycle "good windows, bad windows, good windows...". I think that every time Microsoft releases a system with some visual changes (like going from Windows 95 to Windows 98, from XP to Vista, or from 7 to 8), people get choked up. And most of the criticism comes from the look of the interface.

The thing is that when Windows 98 came out, it wasn't that bad (if we compare it to Win95 considering its major limitations) but it took time for it to be widely accepted. Then came Windows Vista and personally, I thought it was a pretty decent operating system, but it earned that bad reputation and became an outcast. Then came Windows 7 which is identical to Vista with a couple of visual changes and it was a hit. And I suppose the same thing will end up happening with Windows 8 to 10.

For Windows 10 to be a success or a failure in the end it will not matter if it's good or bad as an operating system. It will depend on the clamor of the people and the marketing campaign that MS does.

For my part, I continue with the tandem Windows 7 - Linux and between the two I have everything I need.

[Yorus]

I think that more than the look (which is also important) the burden of Windows 8 has been the usability, very different from Windows 7 or that not everyone has adapted to it. The same has happened in Linux with Unity and Gnome 3.

I still have to download the preview version to try it out, and it is very possible that I will update the Windows 7 on my laptop when the time comes. If it were accompanied by an aggressive pricing policy I could think about buying it for the desktop, although I don't need it for four games.

[whoololon]

How strange, this thread came out closed and with somewhat strange answers...

To the point. Instead of comparing it to W8, let's compare it to W7 and then explain why we should install W10 (which, if it's free for W7/8 users, I agree with that).
What has left me a bit puzzled is this: that it will be free as an upgrade for the happy W7 and W8 users... I don't know, I can't quite see it.

Fassou, you're a genius. :lol:

Edit: In that case, I think I would wait a few months after its release to try it out. I've learned my lesson from paying the price for always wanting to be one of the first.

Edit: ;D I think by now we know that the flaw in W8 was trying to make a desktop PC user, who has dealt with Microsoft's OS, which has maintained the start menu and the rest of the interface practically the same from W95 to W7, deal with a tablet and/or touchscreen interface all at once.
From there on, it's always the same: "where you do what you used to do from the other side".
I mean, if they force an upgrade to W10 by removing support for W7, then I'll have no choice, but for now, I'll stick with it.

[Fassou]

So I think I understand, the free upgrade will be offered from Windows 7 and 8 for a month, and then it will be pay-to-play :facepalm:

@Microsoft:

Windows 3.1 -> Good
Windows 95 -> New but Bad
Windows 95 OSR2 -> Very Good
Windows 98 -> Necessary but Bad
Windows 98 SE -> Good
Windows ME -> Average
Windows XP -> Very Good
Windows Vista -> Very, very Bad
Windows 7 -> Very Good
Windows 8 -> Bad
Windows 10 ->?

Salu2!

[Yorus]

What I had read until now said that the upgrade can be done during the first year and once done it is forever, but if that year passes you will not be able to upgrade Windows 7/8 to 10 ever again without paying. It is not valid for volume licenses.

But since you mention it, I have searched and there is nothing confirmed regarding after the first year, moving to a subscription license or having to acquire a final license.

Windows 10 will be free for the first year

If that is the case, I will continue with Windows 7 on the laptop as long as its support lasts and on the desktop we will see, it has nothing to do with payment. I hope that at least, as I mentioned, they have aggressive prices at least for the home versions.

[whoololon]

If, from what I've read around, there's still a lot of confusion about the update issue: some sites say it's free for the first year and then you have to pay, others say it's free forever if you do it during the first year of the W10 launch.
From what I've seen so far, the most faithful to M$'s policy is the one year free and then pay, but as it's a conjecture and it's not the issue, I'll stop here.

Regarding how W10 is, I don't see anything remarkable beyond the fact that it's the same whether you install it on a tablet or a desktop PC, and that it's ideal for people who even have their doormat connected to the internet... things that for me are cosmetic.
I still haven't found (sure I haven't looked enough), analysis that publish the aspects of performance, hardware management and machine resources (beyond the DirectX12 and supposed analyzes where it's constantly repeated "they say W10 will have..." or "it seems that W10 runs better", to piss and not leak a drop), so W10 doesn't attract me at all.

Edit: Incidentally, it's also to be seen how it gets along with other operating systems that it has to share a machine with.

Edit: To get out of doubts and conjectures, I'm going to the source. It comes from http://windows.microsoft.com/es-es/windows-10/about?ocid=WIN10_0_WOL_Hero_Home_Windows-10_Null_01
@Microsoft.com:

Free Upgrade Offer
Great news! We will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified new or existing Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices that upgrade in the first year!* And even better: once a qualified Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it up to date for the supported lifetime of the device, keeping it more secure, and introducing new features and functionality over time – for no additional charge. Sign up with your email today, and we will send you more information about Windows 10 and the upgrade offer in the coming months.

*It is our intent that most of these devices will qualify, but some hardware/software requirements apply and feature availability may vary by device. Devices must be connected to the internet and have Windows Update enabled. ISP fees may apply. Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 Update required. Some editions are excluded: Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows 8/8.1 Enterprise, and Windows RT/RT 8.1. Active Software Assurance customers in volume licensing have the benefit to upgrade to Windows 10 enterprise offerings outside of this offer. We will be sharing more information and additional offer terms in coming months.

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[Nemo]

Well, I have high hopes that Windows 10 will be a worthy successor to Windows 7.
It's often said that Windows 8 is bad... and it really is. But we must not forget that Windows 8 has its alter ego: Windows 8.1
This version that, for those who didn't delve into Windows 8, may seem like a simple update with its corresponding facelift, could be considered as the Windows 9 that never existed since its changes are notable.
When you've used Windows 8 and then updated to Windows 8.1, you notice that new options have appeared that weren't there before and everything is a bit more where it should be.

I believe that Windows 10 will continue along the same line of improvement that Windows 8.1 (not Windows8) started, seeking balance in an interface that is usable for both touch screens and the traditional keyboard/mouse.

As for the update system, there is a lot of rumor-mongering around this, but little confirmed at an official level. So until it becomes official, we can't be sure if they will adopt the Apple model with free updates or new licenses at low prices (I lean towards this being the case) or continue with the current licensing model.

Best regards

[krampak]

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[Namiga]

@Fassou:

As I understand it, the free upgrade will be offered from Windows 7 and 8 for a month, and then it will cost money :facepalm:

Windows 3.1 -> Good
Windows 95 -> New but Bad
Windows 95 OSR2 -> Very Good
Windows 98 -> Necessary but Bad
Windows 98 SE -> Good
Windows ME -> Average
Windows XP -> Very Good
Windows Vista -> Very, very Bad
Windows 7 -> Very Good
Windows 8 -> Bad
Windows 10 ->?

Regards!

I don't know if it will be good or bad... I think they've set expectations too high...

What I do know is that I'm tired of being Microsoft's guinea pig... so I'll stick with W7 as long as I can... I'll try 10 virtually

By the way... the above... is true... but it's not...
Seriously. Which Microsoft operating system has been GOOD since its release?

XP took 2 years to be somewhat stable...

They usually follow the rule of 1 good, 1 bad, and it repeats...
W7 was the good one... W8 the bad one... If we consider 8.1 an update and not a new OS, 10 is supposed to be the good one

[Yorus]

I think it's a good operating system in terms of performance and fluidity, but the interface gives me the feeling of being half-finished. And I'm not saying this because of the pseudo-metro or parts that seem to be made for mobile, it's that you go to the typical system properties window, or the network adapter properties and they have changed very little since Windows 2000, and with Windows 8 and 10 the contrast between some parts and others has become veryyyy evident, and there is one of each in some like Windows Update. It's not to start a flame, but that's not seen in MacOS or in the vast majority of Linux distributions.

[Kernel1.0]

It's clear that it will be bad. It would be good if it was called 9 but since they skipped it there's nothing to be done.

[whoololon]

Having tried it out very briefly, it feels like it's in open beta: anyone can use it but the goal is to have hundreds of millions of users to find bugs... and boy, you'll find them.
As for taking advantage of the integrated graphics along with the discrete one, nothing yet. The super-powerful DirectX 12... right now, what for? And that's assuming your computer has drivers for the brand new OS.
If they really want to finish off XP or W7 (for me, the best by far), they're going to have to work a lot harder at it.

...and about it being the Matahari of OSes, we'll talk another day.

[Javisoft]

I have gone back to 8.1 because of drivers for my gpus, the vram dump with virtual is so annoying that I did a clean install and said goodbye for a while. But those rough drivers don't affect me to see what the OS is that dominates in terms of performance and fluidity, 8.1 is fast, works well and is stable, but as I say, drivers aside, win 10 goes further, makes better use of hardware using fewer resources. I wish it a great future, but until in 6-7 months I think I won't go back, either the situation changes a lot soon or nanai XDDD. Goodbye.

[calatrava]

I for the moment continue. Not Win10 and without driver problems.

Sent from my Ericsson T10 Yellow

[ferelxyx]

I am testing win 10 for free, I upgraded from 8.1, and so far it's going well
nothing like 8.1, more like a mouse and many improvements in general, pretty good
they need to update a little and compatibility with some drivers but overall good,

regards

[mauro905]

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[whoololon]

@mauro905:

Did you know that Windows 10 is now being downloaded automatically on all computers? Even if you don't want to install it?

That's not entirely accurate.

For that to happen, a series of update packages must be installed beforehand, which are included in optional updates (but does anyone really install those?).

• KB2990214 (W7)
• KB3044374 (W8)
• KB3021917 (W7)
• KB2976978 (W8)
• KB2952664
• KB3035583

Then, silently, it creates the famous (hidden) folders $Windows.~BT and $Windows.~WS, which is where the installation/update files are located.

Avoiding the update is as simple as uninstalling the mentioned packages and hiding the update notification to update. If we change our minds, it's the same but the other way around.

[mauro905]

@whoololon:

That's not accurate.

For that to happen, a series of update packages must be installed beforehand, which are included in optional updates (but does anyone really install those?).

• KB2990214 (W7)
• KB3044374 (W8)
• KB3021917 (W7)
• KB2976978 (W8)
• KB2952664
• KB3035583

Then, silently, it creates the famous (hidden) folders $Windows.~BT and $Windows.~WS, which is where the installation/update files are located.

Avoiding the update is as simple as uninstalling the mentioned packages and hiding the update notification to update. If we change our minds, the same but the other way around.

I take back what I said then, thanks for clarifying my doubt

[winters]

HELLO FOR those who have it installed, even I did not get the download, can you install this application, which seems to eliminate some kind of spyware that Microsoft uses…???

Noticias3D - Destroy Windows 10 Spying eliminates Windows 10 spying

You will tell me if it is true…

[Espinetenbolas]

Yes, if someone tells me... I see it as inevitable that I will end up using it because they will stop supporting 7, but for now I won't switch.

By the way, the best patch from the official website: Destroy Windows Spying - Windows spying removal tool ;D