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    Windows 10? what do you think of it

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    • whoololonW Desconectado
      whoololon Veteranos HL @Yorus
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      If, from what I've read around, there's still a lot of confusion about the update issue: some sites say it's free for the first year and then you have to pay, others say it's free forever if you do it during the first year of the W10 launch.
      From what I've seen so far, the most faithful to M$'s policy is the one year free and then pay, but as it's a conjecture and it's not the issue, I'll stop here.

      Regarding how W10 is, I don't see anything remarkable beyond the fact that it's the same whether you install it on a tablet or a desktop PC, and that it's ideal for people who even have their doormat connected to the internet... things that for me are cosmetic.
      I still haven't found (sure I haven't looked enough), analysis that publish the aspects of performance, hardware management and machine resources (beyond the DirectX12 and supposed analyzes where it's constantly repeated "they say W10 will have..." or "it seems that W10 runs better", to piss and not leak a drop), so W10 doesn't attract me at all.

      Edit: Incidentally, it's also to be seen how it gets along with other operating systems that it has to share a machine with.

      Edit: To get out of doubts and conjectures, I'm going to the source. It comes from http://windows.microsoft.com/es-es/windows-10/about?ocid=WIN10_0_WOL_Hero_Home_Windows-10_Null_01
      @Microsoft.com:

      Free Upgrade Offer
      Great news! We will offer a free upgrade to Windows 10 for qualified new or existing Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows Phone 8.1 devices that upgrade in the first year!* And even better: once a qualified Windows device is upgraded to Windows 10, we will continue to keep it up to date for the supported lifetime of the device, keeping it more secure, and introducing new features and functionality over time – for no additional charge. Sign up with your email today, and we will send you more information about Windows 10 and the upgrade offer in the coming months.

      *It is our intent that most of these devices will qualify, but some hardware/software requirements apply and feature availability may vary by device. Devices must be connected to the internet and have Windows Update enabled. ISP fees may apply. Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8.1 Update required. Some editions are excluded: Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows 8/8.1 Enterprise, and Windows RT/RT 8.1. Active Software Assurance customers in volume licensing have the benefit to upgrade to Windows 10 enterprise offerings outside of this offer. We will be sharing more information and additional offer terms in coming months.

      ! It smells to me like "open beta" that throws you backwards. But I'll stick to my own business; out of curiosity, I access with an old Hotmail account.
      @Microsoft.com:
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      ! I clicked YES and they send me an email asking me which version of Windows (XP/ Vista, W7, W8 or W Phone ? I have.
      ! Well, that's it. Waiting for a response.

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      • NemoN Desconectado
        Nemo Veteranos HL @whoololon
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        Well, I have high hopes that Windows 10 will be a worthy successor to Windows 7.
        It's often said that Windows 8 is bad... and it really is. But we must not forget that Windows 8 has its alter ego: Windows 8.1
        This version that, for those who didn't delve into Windows 8, may seem like a simple update with its corresponding facelift, could be considered as the Windows 9 that never existed since its changes are notable.
        When you've used Windows 8 and then updated to Windows 8.1, you notice that new options have appeared that weren't there before and everything is a bit more where it should be.

        I believe that Windows 10 will continue along the same line of improvement that Windows 8.1 (not Windows8) started, seeking balance in an interface that is usable for both touch screens and the traditional keyboard/mouse.

        As for the update system, there is a lot of rumor-mongering around this, but little confirmed at an official level. So until it becomes official, we can't be sure if they will adopt the Apple model with free updates or new licenses at low prices (I lean towards this being the case) or continue with the current licensing model.

        Best regards

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          • NamigaN Desconectado
            Namiga Veteranos HL @Fassou
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            @Fassou:

            As I understand it, the free upgrade will be offered from Windows 7 and 8 for a month, and then it will cost money :facepalm:

            Windows 3.1 -> Good
            Windows 95 -> New but Bad
            Windows 95 OSR2 -> Very Good
            Windows 98 -> Necessary but Bad
            Windows 98 SE -> Good
            Windows ME -> Average
            Windows XP -> Very Good
            Windows Vista -> Very, very Bad
            Windows 7 -> Very Good
            Windows 8 -> Bad
            Windows 10 ->?

            Regards!

            I don't know if it will be good or bad... I think they've set expectations too high...

            What I do know is that I'm tired of being Microsoft's guinea pig... so I'll stick with W7 as long as I can... I'll try 10 virtually ?

            By the way... the above... is true... but it's not...
            Seriously. Which Microsoft operating system has been GOOD since its release?

            XP took 2 years to be somewhat stable...

            They usually follow the rule of 1 good, 1 bad, and it repeats...
            W7 was the good one... W8 the bad one... If we consider 8.1 an update and not a new OS, 10 is supposed to be the good one

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              Yorus Veteranos HL @Namiga
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              I think it's a good operating system in terms of performance and fluidity, but the interface gives me the feeling of being half-finished. And I'm not saying this because of the pseudo-metro or parts that seem to be made for mobile, it's that you go to the typical system properties window, or the network adapter properties and they have changed very little since Windows 2000, and with Windows 8 and 10 the contrast between some parts and others has become veryyyy evident, and there is one of each in some like Windows Update. It's not to start a flame, but that's not seen in MacOS or in the vast majority of Linux distributions.

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              • Kernel1.0K Desconectado
                Kernel1.0 Veteranos HL
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                It's clear that it will be bad. It would be good if it was called 9 but since they skipped it there's nothing to be done.?

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                • whoololonW Desconectado
                  whoololon Veteranos HL @Kernel1.0
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                  Having tried it out very briefly, it feels like it's in open beta: anyone can use it but the goal is to have hundreds of millions of users to find bugs... and boy, you'll find them.
                  As for taking advantage of the integrated graphics along with the discrete one, nothing yet. The super-powerful DirectX 12... right now, what for? And that's assuming your computer has drivers for the brand new OS.
                  If they really want to finish off XP or W7 (for me, the best by far), they're going to have to work a lot harder at it.

                  ...and about it being the Matahari of OSes, we'll talk another day.

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                  • JavisoftJ Desconectado
                    Javisoft Veteranos HL @whoololon
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                    I have gone back to 8.1 because of drivers for my gpus, the vram dump with virtual is so annoying that I did a clean install and said goodbye for a while. But those rough drivers don't affect me to see what the OS is that dominates in terms of performance and fluidity, 8.1 is fast, works well and is stable, but as I say, drivers aside, win 10 goes further, makes better use of hardware using fewer resources. I wish it a great future, but until in 6-7 months I think I won't go back, either the situation changes a lot soon or nanai XDDD. Goodbye.
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                      I for the moment continue. Not Win10 and without driver problems.

                      Sent from my Ericsson T10 Yellow

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                      • ferelxyxF Desconectado
                        ferelxyx Veteranos HL @calatrava
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                        I am testing win 10 for free, I upgraded from 8.1, and so far it's going well
                        nothing like 8.1, more like a mouse and many improvements in general, pretty good
                        they need to update a little and compatibility with some drivers but overall good,

                        regards

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                            whoololon Veteranos HL @mauro905
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                            @mauro905:

                            Did you know that Windows 10 is now being downloaded automatically on all computers? Even if you don't want to install it?

                            That's not entirely accurate.

                            For that to happen, a series of update packages must be installed beforehand, which are included in optional updates (but does anyone really install those?).

                            • KB2990214 (W7)
                            • KB3044374 (W8)
                            • KB3021917 (W7)
                            • KB2976978 (W8)
                            • KB2952664
                            • KB3035583

                            Then, silently, it creates the famous (hidden) folders $Windows.~BT and $Windows.~WS, which is where the installation/update files are located.

                            Avoiding the update is as simple as uninstalling the mentioned packages and hiding the update notification to update. If we change our minds, it's the same but the other way around.

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                              @whoololon:

                              That's not accurate.

                              For that to happen, a series of update packages must be installed beforehand, which are included in optional updates (but does anyone really install those?).

                              • KB2990214 (W7)
                              • KB3044374 (W8)
                              • KB3021917 (W7)
                              • KB2976978 (W8)
                              • KB2952664
                              • KB3035583

                              Then, silently, it creates the famous (hidden) folders $Windows.~BT and $Windows.~WS, which is where the installation/update files are located.

                              Avoiding the update is as simple as uninstalling the mentioned packages and hiding the update notification to update. If we change our minds, the same but the other way around.

                              I take back what I said then, thanks for clarifying my doubt

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                                winters Veteranos HL @calatrava
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                                  Yes, if someone tells me... I see it as inevitable that I will end up using it because they will stop supporting 7, but for now I won't switch.

                                  By the way, the best patch from the official website: Destroy Windows Spying - Windows spying removal tool ;D

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                                    Espinetenbolas Veteranos HL @Espinetenbolas
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                                    I have to admit that I installed Windows 10 Pro on two computers and it works well.

                                    Although they give it an APP approach and the fact of linking mobile, laptop and PC to work in the cloud (both data and contacts, preferences and applications)…. which I have deactivated.

                                    As for drivers, there is a version of almost everything for Win10... and if not, for example, the scanner (Canon 8800F) the drivers from Win8.1/7/vista work but it's the same as always... it seems that Microsoft wants to do as Apple with OSX and keep changing the system instead of maintaining and patching old OS.

                                    It has the advantage that there are hardly any updates yet... recently I installed two Win7 and I spent two or three days to leave them with the browsers, the office and drivers... well, and the infinite updates that were "what never ends"... exasperating and exhausting it was.

                                    That, along with Microsoft's plans to stop supporting 7, has pushed me to put this Windows on which, so far, touch wood, everything is going well. ?

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                                      whoololon Veteranos HL @Espinetenbolas
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                                      I have no doubt that W10 is a good OS, but when it comes out of this "beta release" stage and different manufacturers offer the respective drivers, and I'm not talking about peripherals.
                                      In my case, after 30 seconds I got a blue screen due to the motherboard drivers, although they have already been released, I don't feel like updating again.
                                      Apart from that, it is already possible to activate W10 (clean installation) with the key of W7 and W8. :sisi: When it comes to formatting, I will try to see.
                                      As for the support of W7, apart from everyone's preferences, I don't think it's such a rush: WinXP (32 bits + SP3) will still have support until 2019. ;D

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                                        Espinetenbolas Veteranos HL @whoololon
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                                        As for support, it's true that it will still take time, but not as long as you say: http://windows.microsoft.com/es-es/windows/lifecycle

                                        The thing is that Microsoft is almost "forcing-inciting" people to switch to 10… it's very expensive to maintain both systems: Everything was a mistake: Microsoft clarifies the forced update to Windows 10 from Windows 7 and 8

                                        In any case, it's always the same and I think a clean installation is preferable, which is what I did… no updates... a USB 3.0 and a good SSD will get you up and running in no time. ?

                                        That is, you need to have the Bios-UEFI patched with SLIC or the crack won't work :mute:

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                                          whoololon Veteranos HL @Espinetenbolas
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                                          No, I mean a clean install of W10 build 10565 activated with the key of W7 or W8/ 8.1 (those of you who are in Insider). :wall:

                                          Those who are not assigned to the Insider program, will have access to this feature starting in November. ;D

                                          Edit: For all this, I recommend waiting for things to stabilize a bit, W10 will become a very good OS, but not yet.

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                                            Well I think I have the final version…I'm not an insider and I didn't "download it from the Internet" (torrent, direct download, etc.)... according to AIDA64 it is the one with 10.0.10240.16545 (Win10 RTM)

                                            You can download it directly from MS servers with the "MediaCreationToolx64" -> http://www.microsoft.com/es-es/software-download/windows10

                                            I don't know if there will be other versions or revisions but of course unless some program that is essential for me doesn't work well I won't go back to Windows 7 no matter what.

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