Total or partial change? (updating myself)

[boncoe]

@sylver said in Total or partial change? (updating):

Mr. @Fassou is absolutely right.
Moreover, you can still get a lot of performance out of that system by just adding a more powerful graphics card. It's a very similar configuration to mine, and I'm thinking about getting one of the deals that Mr. Fassou mentioned soon.

Best regards!

Thanks Sylver, well the truth is that my system is very, very similar, if not the same as yours.
What I do see is that you have it overclocked to 4.4 GHz if I'm not mistaken, my motherboard has a section to increase the frequency, but I'm not very familiar with how I should do it, but I would like to squeeze a little more out of my processor while waiting for something more updated to come out. And another question is what graphics card do you think would be a good option for the system I currently have to be able to migrate it to the new one? Something between 250 and 300€ to play comfortably the games of now and those that will come out throughout the year. Best regards

[Sylver]

@boncoe said in Total or partial change? (updating):

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Indeed, I have it at 4'4Ghz and it does them without problems. There are videos out there on how to configure the BIOS to overclock the 2500K, I'll leave you some:

Regarding the graphics, we recently talked about some very tempting offers for equipment like ours. We have a pretty decent processor that still supports current graphics giving very good performance.
Here are some examples: https://www.carrefour.es/componentes-gaming-tarjetas-graficas/N-lj2jihZfqkloe/c
I am very tempted to get one if the offers last until January.

Best regards!

[boncoe]

Thanks Sylver, last night I tried to overclock it from the BIOS of my Asrock P67 P3 motherboard and it has an overclocking section in which you can increase the frequency without having to manually adjust the voltage. I increased it to 4 GHz and I tested it with an external program on the desktop and it worked correctly. As for the link you sent me, it is very interesting, but the truth is that I am a bit lost with AMD graphics, I would have to look them up. I have been reading that the release of the Ryzen 3000 is pending, so I think I will get the graphics card first and then later in the year, depending on what comes out new and if I have some money, I will decide something...

[boncoe]

@boncoe said in Full or partial change? (updating):

@fassou said in Full or partial change? (updating):

In my humble opinion, it's a bad time to change because there are several upcoming releases (Ryzen 3000, GTX 2000,...) and everything is still quite expensive.

Save up for the platform change that you will have to make, and if you have extra money for a new graphics card, keep an eye out for the deals that are coming out these days to get a good deal, and take advantage of it for the new equipment when you change.

Cheers!

Thanks Fassou, exactly the same thing a friend told me a few hours ago, although he also commented that the option of buying a Ryzen 5 2600 3.9 Ghz wouldn't be bad but the graphics cards are expensive, at least the Nvidia ones. I still remember about 6 years ago when I changed to the current computer and you gave me very good advice.

Fassou I have a question, I saw this graphics card on promotion: gigabyte-radeon-rx-580-gaming-8g-8gb-gddr5 for 220€ and they give me 2 games.
Do you think that with the specifications of my equipment, especially the i5 2500k processor, I could have a bottleneck? Right now I have it overclocked to 4 Mhz with the possibility of a little more. If you could answer me I would appreciate it or if you think it's convenient to change this post to another more appropriate one. Thanks again

[Fassou]

@boncoe you also have the RX580 for 206€ at Coolmod, and although you would get more FPS with a more powerful computer, I don't think the investment is worth it.

Salu2!

[Obione]

As the graphics market is, I would consider the 570 8GB from Coolmod at 140€ and wait miles until something interesting comes out, by which time you will already have the Ryzen 2.

[rul3s]

@obione said in Total or partial change? (updating):

As the graphics market is, I would consider the 570 8GB from Coolmod at 140€ and run miles until something interesting arrives, by which time you will already have the Ryzen 2.

+a billion, I vote for this option too, although I would get the RX570 4GB OC version from asus that they had at GAME, if it's still available...

[boncoe]

In the end I got the Gigabyte Rx 570 Gaming 4 Gb Bulk version from coolmod for 109€. The offer for the same version for 145€ ran out in less than a day, they literally flew away just like the one I bought. I sold my old windforce oc 760 GTX 2 gb for 55€ so this new one almost came out even. Thanks for all your advice.

[rul3s]

@boncoe said in Total or partial change? (updating):

In the end I got the Gigabyte Rx 570 Gaming 4 Gb Bulk version from coolmod for 109€. The offer for the same version for 145€ was gone in less than a day, they literally flew away just like the one I bought. I sold my old windforce oc 760 GTX 2 gb for 55€ so this new one almost came out even. Thanks for all your advice.

Good change, when it arrives you will tell us if you are happy with the change!

[_Neptunno_]

@boncoe said in Total or partial change? (updating):

In the end, I got the Gigabyte Rx 570 Gaming 4 Gb Bulk version from coolmod for €109. The offer for the same version for €145 was gone in less than a day, they literally flew away just like the one I bought. I sold my old windforce oc 760 GTX 2 gb for €55 so this new one almost came out even. Thanks for all your advice.

Joe, it's a good deal for you because for just over €55 you've upgraded your GPU and you'll notice a performance increase, plus you have more memory

You'll let us know how it goes!

[garfield]

@ broncoe Look at the bios that comes with that graphics card, which according to what I read is for mining, and comes with the power limit capped at 90W because of the consumption issue. Vo that there is a bios that removes that limit and you gain quite a bit in oc, like 1400 on the core and 2000 on the memory.

Saludos

[garfield]

I don't know what Coolmod is doing, they are taking all the rx570 bulk off the market. But they still don't say that they are for mining. Curious. Today they released the offer for the 8gb rx570

[rul3s]

@garfield said in Total or partial change? (updating):

@ broncoe Look at the bios that comes with that card, which for what I read is for mining, and comes with the power limit capped at 90W because of the consumption issue. Vo that there is a bios that removes that limit and you gain a lot in oc, like 1400 the core and 2000 the memories.

Regards

I also read that, but I checked it on mine and everything was correct, so maybe initially they were for mining, but then they put normal bioses on them.
I am very happy with the 4GB one for 99€, a 10 out of 10 for coolmod for bringing us these offers.

[garfield]

Well, for that price, seeing that they keep coming out with deals like this, you can put together a crossfire for 200€ matching the performance of a 1070, so I don't care if they're for mining. If that's the case, you change the bios and that's it. The complaint that many users had was because they didn't put it anywhere. But as I said, at that price give me two.

[boncoe]

@garfield said in Total or partial change? (updating):

@ broncoe Look at the bios that come with that card, which according to what I read is for mining, and comes with the power limit capped at 90W because of the consumption issue. Vo that there is a bios that removes that limit and you gain quite a bit in oc, like 1400 the core and 2000 the memories.

Regards

I didn't know they were dedicated to mining, I'm not an expert in the field either but I understand that the cards dedicated to mining are capped in power?

Another thing, how can I check what you're telling me about whether it's limited and be able to solve it in case it was as you say?

[garfield]

The GPU-Z marks it, and with the polaris bios editor you can raise the power limit so that the graphics card doesn't fall short. What happens with the mining ones is not so much the performance, but that when you take them to the limit, the led of the graphics card tells you that it doesn't get enough voltage. But like everything, if you touch what you shouldn't, you're left with a paperweight. But it can be fixed by plugging it into another pc and flashing it again. It's not complicated, and I've already had to do it when I put in modified BIOS for memory timings and other stories.

[amd125]

And in the end how was the change? Have you noticed it in games? You should notice a nice FPS increase, not doubling the FPS but I'd say easily 40-50% more depending on the game.

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-vs-amd-radeon-rx-570/

On the other hand, a change you might consider is acquiring an I7 from your socket that is well priced. A 2600K can be found for about 80-85€. You sell your micro and for a few euros you would notice a change especially in games that use more than 4 cores. Like Battlefield. It's a change to leave a balanced team, games pull more from graphics than from micro. And don't think that by assembling a modern AMD you will move games much better, with all the money that the change of platform implies. That's why another cheap option is the I7.

I have an I7 2600k at 4.2 which as you can see is old with an RX 580 of 8 Gigas and the team with 16 Gigas of Ram gives me the ability to play at 1080p well and at 1440p depending on the game if I don't put details in ultra it goes decently.

If you don't see it as an option, I personally would stick with the current team, because spending about 500€ between memories, motherboard and micro, is a lot of money, and assembling a modern team, but with the graphics card you bought, it would be a lot of micro for that graphics card. More so considering how little it cost you. In summary, enjoy the new graphics card and either you spend little on a second-hand I7, or it's time to fork out a good amount of money.

[boncoe]

@amd125 said in Total or partial change? (updating):

And in the end, how was the change? Have you noticed it in games? You should notice a nice FPS increase, not double the FPS but I'd say easily 40-50% more depending on the game.

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-vs-amd-radeon-rx-570/

On the other hand, a change you might consider is acquiring an i7 from your socket that is well priced. A 2600K can be found for about 80-85€. You sell your micro and for a few euros you would notice a change especially in games that use more than 4 cores. Like Battlefield. It's a change to leave a balanced team, games rely more on graphics than on micro. And don't think that by assembling a modern AMD you will move games much better, with all the money that the change of platform implies. That's why another cheap option is the i7.

I have an i7 2600k at 4.2 which as you can see is old with an RX 580 of 8 Gigas and the team with 16 Gigas of Ram gives me the ability to play at 1080p well and at 1440p depending on the game if I don't put details in ultra it goes decently.

If you don't see it as an option, I personally would stick with the current team, because spending about 500€ between memories, motherboard and micro, is a lot of money, and assembling a modern team, but with the graphics card you've bought, it would be a lot of micro for that graphics card. More so considering how little it cost you. In summary, enjoy the new graphics card and either you spend little on a second-hand i7, or you have to shell out a good amount of money.

I really appreciate your advice, it's an option I hadn't considered. The truth is that if I've managed to get a 20 and 35 frames more depending on the game. I know that updating the team completely is around the money you say, but I'm in no hurry from now until summer or after and the ryzen 3s come out. I'll gain some improvement in the games but already looking to the future of moving to 6 or 8 cores will give me the ability to work with multitasking and video editing.

[amd125]

Well, I think that's great. Enjoy the new graphics, those extra FPS, smoother gameplay, and when you have some money saved up, you'll see what to do with it. Not before. Congratulations, very good change for very little money.

[boncoe]

Thank you very much, the truth is that we appreciate all the advice you provide here since sometimes the impulse to buy the newest or latest can play a bad trick on you and thanks to your advice, a good choice of equipment or components can give you equipment according to your needs for several years...