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    • ClipperC Desconectado
      Clipper @_Neptunno_
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      I have read that the 670 chip does not "exist" as such, but rather it is two chips from the previous generation in tandem, which means it is cheaper but... The "E" series motherboards will be more expensive in order to support PCI E5 and mnV 5.
      So... one thing for another.
      Best regards

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        @clipper we'll see how it turns out, I haven't read anything that it's from a previous generation but what really matters is that it performs well and there are no problems like what happened at the beginning with the B550 and the USB ports. AMD has lost some market share in terms of processors and will probably have to think seriously about the steps it can take. In any case, I imagine that Zen 4 will arrive with motherboards with all its most important features for the vast majority of users, then we'll see what happens. Don't get too excited about PCI 5.0 since 4.0 is currently deployed and although many people are getting the most out of it, there are still quite a few users who are still using 3.0 xD
        Certainly, considering the platform you come from, which was not very successful in its day (in terms of performance, although affordable in price) whatever change you make you are going to improve enormously! Your RX580 hasn't been able to get the most out of it during the time you've had it, you'll see the difference when you change the socket.

        Regards!!

        P.D: In professional environments, all the performance improvements in Nvme, PCI, etc. are taken into account. For home users, unless one is an enthusiast, it's not economically worthwhile.

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          Clipper @Clipper
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          Quick summary of what I've read about the new AMD5.
          Change of socket and anchoring system, the pins move to the board (Intel system), the heatsinks are compatible with AMD 4 (which, if I remember correctly, is the same as AMD 3+ )
          MnV 5 will be wider due to temperature issues, even though they will use the same connector, this implies that MnV 5 may not be compatible with certain AMD 4 boards, which doesn't make much sense, unless you want to upgrade an AMD 4 to AMD 5 little by little....
          But MnV 4 will be compatible with the MnV 5 platform, even though they don't take advantage of the speed.
          DDR 5 they don't say anything about whether the current DDR5 will be compatible with AMD, they say it supports XCM (Intel) but don't specify anything, if we have DDR5 for Intel and others for AMD, we're in trouble...
          PCI X5, we already know, to take advantage of it, new graphics.
          TPC more or less stable (I think it was 105)
          CPU speed, they talk about turbo mode at 5.6 (with normal R.L) and O.C up to 5.8.
          I suppose that if they come out "good", 6 Ghz will be stable with an R.L in good condition.
          Three types of chips for low-end / mid-range / high.
          The main difference between them is that the low-end, in theory, doesn't support O.C or MnV 5, the mid-range supports MnV 5 and in theory has dual chip and the high-end that supports everything.
          As an advancement, it seems they are abandoning fans for the chip in the AMD 4 570 series and moving to passive cooling on the M.B.
          But they also do it with the MnV 5 ports, as it's something I don't have, I'm not sure if the new MnV 5 will come with heatsinks or not, but the new boards don't seem to need them integrated into the MnV.
          That it's cleaner is clear, but manufacturers need to agree.. I don't know.
          As for power connectors for the M.B, it seems we stay the same (fortunately)
          P.d AMD says that AMD 4 still has a lot of life left... But I've seen the 3D tests (last model) and it leaves it in a very bad way...
          Regards

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            Clipper @Clipper
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            While new data is coming out about the new AMD 5
            I am looking at configurations on AMD 4.
            As with AMD 5 I can only keep:
            Corsair icue 500X rgb tower
            Corsair RMX 750 i
            Corsair iCUE H150i RGB PRO XT
            Graphics: XFX 580 8gs
            Corsair modular wiring.
            Backup SSD: kioxia 480 gs.

            M.B New, it's clear that I want one with the X570 chip ATX format, minimum two mnv2, I'm not going to do crossfire, I'm not going to mount 10 SSDs.
            I don't need "lights"
            If I want a network controller that supports 1gs speed (I don't rule out switching to Digi, currently I have O2 of 600 MB)
            I don't rule out, rather I have in mind, mounting an R.L to the graphics with the R.L to GPU adaptation kit
            Therefore better with multiple internal USBs or direct connectors for at least one R.L.
            .
            CPU an AMD 9 5900 or a 5950, the big donkey thing... I'm not very clear about that...
            RAM, I have 32 gs at 1600, so I don't go below 32 gs it's clear that an intermediate frequency (preferably without needing to do O.C, using XCM that recognizes it and a low cl).
            With the possibility of going up to 64 gs in the future (maintaining speed, that already happened to me with the ddr 3 vipper black mamba, which are not compatible at 1866 Mhz
            And a pair of MnV 2 in raid 0.
            What do you suggest I look at?
            Regards

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            • ClipperC Desconectado
              Clipper @Clipper
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              There have been some rumors that AMD is considering releasing a series of AMD 5 series processors for the Amd4 socket.
              Of course, without compatibility for DDR5 and PCI 5 and the same for SSDs.
              Personally, I see it as a step backwards.
              It's kind of like buying a castrated thoroughbred...
              I think I'll skip AMD 5 and upgrade to AMD 4 mid-range / high.
              And I'll open the corresponding post to comment on any doubts.
              Regards

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