Test of the Real Nvidia Gtx Titan, single-sli-tri Sli, 4 WAY SLI
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ELP3 I already imagine that you have played quite a bit with the 4 titans as you were commenting, what is the average and minimum that you achieve in games at 1600p?Seeing that it is the first certified 4096x2160 graphics card you have tested, have you tried using downsampling to bring it to this resolution;D?
Regards.
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ELP3 I imagine you've already played quite a bit with the 4 titans as you were commenting, what is the average and minimum you achieve in games at 1600p
Seeing that it is the first certified 4096x2160 graphics you have tested by downsampling to bring it to this resolution ;D?
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60 fps constant with v-sync. With everything I've played at the maximum of the maximum.. metro very high, DOF, Physx4XMSAA, Sleeping dogs extreme, Max payne all in very high and 8XMSAA and even Tomb raider, although this one doesn't work quite well as there are some stutters like loading sometimes quite annoying.
I haven't tried downsampling… I also don't know if my monitor supports it..
Regards.
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Constant 60 fps with v-sync. With everything I've played at the maximum of the maximum.. metro very high, DOF, Physx4XMSAA, Sleeping dogs extreme, Max payne all in very high and 8XMSAA and even Tomb raider, although this one doesn't work quite right as there are some stutters like loading sometimes quite annoying.
I haven't tried downsampling… I also don't know if my monitor supports it..
Regards.
It's a matter of trying but it seems to me that it's not coming from the monitor side but from the graphics, I just tried it on my 1080p TV and I managed 2560x1600 and I also tried it on a 19 Samsung 940s monitor (1280x1024 resolution) and it also gives 2560x1600 I tried Crysis 3 and the Resident Evil 6 benchmark and it works although the resolution is suitable for my TV of 2560x1440.
Or a combination of both (monitor and GPU) because of what I read the Dell U2711 does 2160p.-
I'll leave you the tutorial but I think it could work at 2160p
Downsampling, a simple method for making your pc-games look better. - NeoGAF
Regards.
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It's a matter of trying it out, but I think it's not coming from the monitor side, but from the graphics. I just tried it on my 1080p TV and I managed to get 2560x1600, and I also tried it on a 19 Samsung 940s monitor with a resolution of 1280x1024) and it also gave me 2560x1600. I tried Crysis 3 and the benchmark for Resident Evil 6, and it works, although the appropriate resolution for my TV is 2560x1440.
Or a combination of both (monitor and GPU), because I read that the Dell U2711 does 2160p.
I'll leave you the tutorial, but it seems to me that it could work at 2160p.
Downsampling, a simple method for making your pc-games look better. - NeoGAF
Salu2.
Mine is a 3011. And all the previous downsampling I tried were unsuccessful.
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Mine is a 3011. And all the previous downsampling I tried, were unsuccessful.
You have to try them with the latest drivers and it works
I just tested it on another TV and I managed 3840x2160 30 Hz (dvi-hdmi) via vga it stays at 1600p.
It looks clear in the Resident evil 6 benchmark how the fps drop.
at 1080p - scene 1 36 fps - scene 2 30 fps
at 1600p - scene 1 24 fps - scene 2 17 fps
at 2160p - scene 1 14 fps - scene 2 9 fpsSalu2.-
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That downsampling is great, it works well on my 24" at 2560x1440! In games where you can't scale the UI it's a pain because it gets so small, but the quality improves considerably. I've tried higher ones but it just goes black. -
Elp3 tests a 2800x1700 downsampling. You can do that without any problems, I have the same monitor as you, and I can't go any higher
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I have a 27" HP 2710m and it works at 2560x1440
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ELP3 I leave you a link to achieve 3840*2160 even in 16:10 formatDownsampling – A full guide to achieve 3840x2160 resolution – NVIDIA only - ScreenArchery Wiki
This weekend I will do some benches in 1080p, 1440p and 2160p and upload the results.-
Salu2.-
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Hello fellow users.
First of all, congratulations to ELP3 for your efforts in sharing your feelings and experiences with all of us. What a pass of TITAN they are walking beasts….....
This is how nice it is to play in surround on the themes, like Crysis and tomb raider.... :wall:
I am very happy that you have once again beaten another record in 3DMARK, as last year you achieved it with our beloved 4 way 680.Although I do not post much due to lack of time, I try to follow you by reading all your posts...........
A hug.
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Elp3 tests a downsampling of 2800x1700. You can do that without any problems, I have the same monitor as you, and I can't go higher
More than a problem with the monitor, it will be a problem with the standards to be met for each resolution in terms of available bandwidth for video output, even if this is completely fictional. Let me explain:
It is supposed that if you activate screen scaling by GPU, and not by the screen itself, there is not really a change in resolution compared to the native one of the same, and therefore there is no additional requirement against the screen.
What may be different is the synchronization and that the resolutions internally the system evaluates if they can or cannot be used by bandwidth (MHz), depending on how that screen is connected. Resolutions like 4K make a Dual link DVI fall short, and although it is not a real limitation of the screen or the communication with it, since it continues to work at the native resolution (the downsampling occurs in the graphics, not in the screen, and everything that is sent to it is in native resolution).
But anyway, the system continues with its thing even if the scaling is done in the gpu, and it may "not be able" to use certain resolutions for wiring issues, although technically it is not using that higher resolution (what can change is the way how the information is sent to the screen, which can cause some of the problems when using certain types of screens and wiring). I suppose that using a displayport or something like that can allow better reach of 4K.
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More than a monitor problem, it will be a problem of the standards to be met for each resolution in terms of available bandwidth for video output, even if it is totally fictional. Let me explain:
It is supposed that if you activate screen scaling by GPU, and not by the screen itself, there is really no change in resolution compared to the native one of the same, and therefore there is no additional requirement against the screen.
What may be different is the synchronization and that the resolutions internally the system evaluates if they can or cannot be used by bandwidth (MHz), depending on how that screen is connected. Resolutions like 4K make a Dual link DVI fall short, and although it is not a real limitation of the screen or the communication with it, since it continues to work at the native resolution (the downsampling occurs in the graphics, not in the screen, and everything that is sent to it is in native resolution).
But anyway, the system continues with its thing even if the scaling is done in the gpu, and it may "not be able" to use certain resolutions for wiring issues, although technically it is not using that higher resolution (what can change is the way how the information is sent to the screen, which can cause some of the problems when using certain types of screens and wiring). I suppose that using a displayport or something like that can allow better reach of 4K.
Indeed I think that's where the bullets are going. DVI doesn't give much more... anyway, with 2560X1600p and being able to add the amount of MSAA.SSAA etc.. that games support, Max Payne 3, with 8xMSAA at 1600p is truly spectacular as it is seen.. downsampling is not exactly something that keeps me awake at night..;)
salu2.
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Indeed I think that's where it's headed. DVI can't do much more... anyway, with 2560X1600p and being able to add the amount of MSAA.SSAA etc.. that games support, Max Payne 3, with 8xMSAA at 1600p is truly spectacular as it looks.. downsampling isn't exactly something that keeps me up at night..;)
salu2.
I imagine that yes, there must be quite a difference between a native resolution at 1600p on an IPS monitor versus downsampling on a 1080p monitor or TV I suppose because of the pixel size, I got 2160p on 2 TVs via DVI-HDMI but I never achieved good quality like via VGA and the latest generation games are at 10 fps performance with the GTX 580 at that resolution.
Anyway, this downsampling thing is amazing I don't want to take the 1440p resolution away anymore.
I would have liked to be able to get an impression of your Titans at that resolution although from what I read the one that was tested on a 4k TV couldn't get the Titan SLi to work.-
Salu2.
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The following BIOS seems to fix the throttling issues: Nvidia GeForce GTX TITAN Owners' club
And for those who want to tinker with the bios, they have updated the Kepler BIOS Tweaker utility and now it supports the Titan bios: http://www.technic3d.com/download/overclocking-und-monitoring-tools/532-kepler-bios-tweaker-v1.25.htm
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Although I solve it, I don't see clearly the need to update the bios for something that is a problem with the drivers. In forums it has already been confirmed that it also happens with many 680s, but only with the latest WHQL and Beta drivers, with the previous ones it didn't happen. The problem is that the previous ones don't work for the Titans, but I will wait if they solve it via drivers before touching the bios.
Greetings
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Although I fix it, I don't see it clear to have to update the bios for something that is a problem of drivers. In forums it has already been confirmed that it also happens with many 680s, but only with the latest WHQL and Beta drivers, with the previous ones it didn't happen. The problem is that the previous ones don't work for the Titans, but I'm going to wait if they fix it via drivers before touching the bios.
Regards
As the drivers are being updated, even in nvidia and kepler despite what some say, the performance is increasing in the same games or using the gpu more fully.
As the performance is being squeezed more, the consumption in a given graphic is increasing, and in the case of very demanding games they can make the frequencies dance due to the TDP limit. In the same way that this same greater optimization of the drivers makes that a frequency with OC "stable" with one version is no longer stable with a more modern one. But not because the driver is more unstable, but because by using the gpu more fully it goes better against its limit, evidencing OCs that are very close to the limit. And also of course making the frequencies dance due to the TDP.
It's that simple, and yes, the BIOS of course paints a lot, since the information of the frequency and voltage planner basically dictates the BIOS, and with that data the drivers manage. Of course a BIOS can make frequencies "dance" (or not). Starting because even the standard TDP is defined there, the "power target", and in a BIOS the 100% applied doesn't have to be exactly the same 100% of a later revision.
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The following BIOS seems to solve the throttling problems: Nvidia GeForce GTX TITAN Owners' club
And for those who want to tinker with the bios, they have updated the Kepler BIOS Tweaker utility and now it supports the Titan bios: Kepler BIOS Tweaker v1.25 | Download | Technic3D
As the drivers are being updated, even in nvidia and kepler, despite what some say, performance is increasing in the same games or by using the gpu more fully.
As performance is squeezed more, consumption increases in a given graphics card, and in the case of very demanding games, frequencies can fluctuate due to the TDP limit. In the same way, this same optimization of the drivers means that a frequency with OC that was "stable" with one version may no longer be stable with a more modern one. But not because the driver is more unstable, but because by using the gpu more fully, it goes better against its limit, evidencing OCs that are very close to the limit. And also of course causing frequency fluctuations due to TDP.
It's that simple, and yes, bioses of course matter a lot, since the information of the frequency and voltage scheduler is basically dictated by the bios, and with that data the drivers manage. Of course a bios can make frequencies "dance" (or not). Starting because even the standard TDP is defined there, the "power target", and in a bios the 100% applied does not have to be exactly the same 100% of a later revision.
I don't own a Titan yet, I hope to join the Titamaniaco club soon….......xD. But according to what I've read from that thread where they link to the end, those bios are personalized bios, made by users. That basically increase the voltage and turbo frequency. Some work well and others don't
I think it's too early to start looking for some kind of solution, in personalized bios, with the risk that flashing a gpu bios entails, I certainly think like Pepillo, having one of these missiles in your hands, "risking it" on a personalized bios when the card has just been released, is a bit "crazy"…. I for one would wait quietly for the manufacturers to release bioses if it's a problem with them, or directly drivers, since there hasn't been anything since the last official ones...
Best regards...
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Inno 3D has released its titan with R.L hybrid aceelero, any R.L lover has to like it jajajja…......
Inno3D Intros GeForce GTX Titan with Hybrid iChill Cooling Solution | VideoCardz.com
Saludos.
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As ELP3 mentioned the other day that these cards have a smoothness like never before, I found this article that is very interesting where it informs us that we no longer only have to look at fps, although I always looked at the minimums, from now on we will also have to look at the response time and that is where the Titan has its strong point.
NVIDIA GTX TITAN vs. SLI & Crossfire
Salu2.-
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Inno 3D a sacado su titan con R.L hybrid aceelero, a todo amante de la R.L le tiene que gustar jajajja…......
Inno3D Intros GeForce GTX Titan with Hybrid iChill Cooling Solution | VideoCardz.com
Saludos.
Si lo que ese disipador es un artic cooling,se vende por separado tambien,tambien creo que EK ya ha sacado algun bloque para las Titan,aqui se ven algunos.
EK pasa por agua la GeForce GTX Titan | El Chapuzas Informático
Tambien EVGA tiene un modelo con bloque para RL,lo unico que va a salir caro meter bloques a esas tarjetas.
EVGA | Articles | EVGA GeForce GTX Titan
deben costar bastante esas EVGA.
Saludos
Según como comentaba ELP3 el otro día que estas tarjetas tienen una suavidad como nunca antes encontré este articulo que es muy interesante donde nos informa que ya no solamente hay que mirar los fps, aunque yo siempre me fije en los mínimos a partir de ahora también abra que mirar el tiempo de respuesta y ahí es donde la Titan tiene su punto fuerte.
NVIDIA GTX TITAN vs. SLI & Crossfire
Salu2.-.
Si eso ya lo van haciendo varias web,yo siempre me he guiado por la sensacion al jugar,con las 480 a veces veia 45 fps pero corria suave,en otras tarjetas se nota mas si baja,tambien la 8800 a mi me dio siempre mejor sensacion que la 9800,aun rindiendo menos pues era una 8800 GTs frente a la 9800GTx,me duro poco esa ultima por que no me parecia que fuera tan bien como la otra,aunque habia juegos donde la 9800GTx solia ir muy bien como COD4,pero por ejemplo NFS MW el antiguo me parecia ir bastante mejor con la 8800,pero es bueno que segun avanzamos se cuide la jugabilidad,por eso yo ya sabia que el GK110 iria mejor que el GK104 aunque estas si se comparan con la anterior generacion no queden nada mal.
saludos
