I ask for a recommendation

[Franziskaner]

he he he it's nice he he
I included the SSD in the budget because with 400 bucks, considering what the PC is for and that you only want micro MB and ram, there's extra money, so unless you want to spend less, I personally would buy either an SSD (I put that one so as not to go over budget) or a decent cooler (which is almost preferable to the cooler) unless you want to do like Sylver :troll::troll: who has a beautiful K and a very pretty MB but... can't do O.C :ugly:
P.D about the PC components (or any other store) and amazon, think about the shipping costs and the quality of the RMA, on amazon the shipping costs come out free by registering as premium and when you receive the shipment you delete it.
regards
P.D 2 as you can see we have both passed over AMD, the new 8350s are very good, about 10/20 bucks less than a 2500K, but they perform less in games :wall: unless you have a compatible motherboard with them it's not a valid option. it was mainly to clarify
regards

[_Neptunno_]

@Kornex:

And as for the SSD, I think I don't need it at all since I have an external hard drive of 1 Tb (WD Elements) that I plan to convert to internal and put it as the main one to make the most of its capacity.

I don't know what hard drive you had until now as the main one, but it surely has better performance than the one you have on the external drive, because for sure it is a WD Green. I reused in the PC for watching movies and downloads one of 1.5TB, because the usb/sata controller broke, and it is Green.
That is, it has less consumption but worse performance, anyway if you don't have more disks and you don't intend to spend a dime more, go ahead... the games will go the same, although in certain tasks it will go a little slower.

Greetings!

[Sylver]

@Franziskaner:

je je je simpático je je
I put the SSD in the budget because with 400 bucks, considering what the PC is for and that you only want micro MB and ram, there is extra money, so unless you want to spend less, I would personally buy either an SSD (I put that one so as not to go over the budget) or a decent cooler (which is almost preferable to the cooler) unless you want to do like Sylver :troll::troll: who has a beautiful K and a very pretty MB but …... can't do O.C :ugly:
P.D about the Pc components (or any other store) and amazon, think about the shipping costs and the quality of the RMA, on amazon the shipping costs come out free by registering as premium and when you receive the shipment you delete it.
regards
P.D 2 as you can see we have both passed over AMD, the new 8350s are very good, about 10/20 bucks less than a 2500K, but they perform less in games :wall: unless you have a compatible motherboard it is not a valid option. I just wanted to clarify that
regards

Are we already pinching? Don't remind me that I have the stock cooler, I get very upset :ugly:

He should invest now in the platform and then with the next savings get an SSD of 128Gb or more, that way he has a proportional team, but the intention is very good, it will always be better to have an SSD than a mechanical one.

Regards

[Franziskaner]

@Sylver:

Are we already overclocking? Don't remind me that I have the stock cooler, I get very angry :ugly:

What he should do is invest in a platform now and then with the next savings, get a 128Gb SSD or more, so he has a proportional computer, but the intention is very good, it will always be better to have an SSD than a mechanical one.

Regards

that's why I say that if you have extra money and get a K, it's silly to have the stock cooler, because then you won't be able to do much overclocking, another thing is that today you don't want to overclock and then an SSD as the main hard drive I think is what you need.
regards
P.D Sylver I'm not overclocking :troll: it's that I'm eager to see those synthetic tests that you promised ;D

[Kornex]

Obviously an SSD is better than a mechanical one, but apart from the money, there's the fact that the Elements I have is almost unused, and since it has a lot of capacity I want to give it a good use. Of course I will have to buy a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter.

[Franziskaner]

@Kornex:

Obviously an SSD is better than a mechanical one, but apart from the money, there's the fact that the Elements I have is almost unused, and since it has a lot of capacity I want to give it a good use. Of course I will have to buy a 2.5 to 3.5 adapter.

well ….. I would never suggest that you use an SSD as a single disk, the Elements as a storage disk and if you don't have any more (hard drive is understood) it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a partition for backups.
regards

[Kornex]

@Franziskaner:

man ….. I would never suggest that you use an SSD as a single disk, the Elements as a storage disk and if you don't have any more (hard drive is understood) it wouldn't be a bad idea to make a partition for backups.
regards

My idea was to use the Elements (as internal, that is, taking it out of its box) and a Barracuda that I have that is already old and isn't up to many copy runs.

[Sylver]

Be careful with disks that are too old, constantly monitor them with Crystal Disk because if they enter RIESGO they have little life left... I assure you.

That said, you can put the one you have as internal, but think about getting a new disk soon, whether SSD or mechanical, but it will always perform better than one from an external carcase, because as Neptunno rightly says, they are all low consumption, that is, they go at fewer revolutions and have lower speed rates, so their performance for tasks or games is much poorer.

Greetings

[Franziskaner]

as I told you Neptunno, most likely that hard drive is a Green and that is not the best choice precisely for a main drive, I would almost prefer the old barracuda as the main one and the green as a backup
regards

[Franziskaner]

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@Sylver:

Cuidado con los discos demasiado viejos, vigílalos constantemente con el Crystal Disk porque a poco que entren en RIESGO les queda poca vida… te lo aseguro.

Lo dicho, puedes poner el que tengas como interno, pero piensa en hacerte con un disco nuevo pronto, ya sea SSD o mecánico, pero siempre rendirá más que uno salido de una carcarsa externa, porque como bien dice Neptunno, son todos de bajo consumo, es decir, van a menos revoluciones y tienen unas tasas de velocidad menores, por lo que su rendimiento para tareas o juegos es mucho mas pobre.

Saludos

te has adelantado ;D

[Kornex]

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Pufff, pues menudo dilema, porque ganas de gastarme más dinero ya os digo que no voy a tener, después del desembolso que me supone modificar el PC…

[Franziskaner]

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mira el estado de ambos discos y para el rendimiento :
Test Discos Duros. - HardLimit
saludos

[Kornex]

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@Franziskaner:

mira el estado de ambos discos y para el rendimiento :
Test Discos Duros. - HardLimit
saludos

De acuerdo, mañana le echaré un ojito que ya estoy muy cansado.

[_Neptunno_]

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Siempre es bueno tener otro disco duro, para backups. Ese Barracuda que modelo es? es un 7200.12, 7200.11…o es mas viejo? De que fecha es?

Realmente, casi preferiría tener ese disco principal y el otro, aunque lo tengas interno, de backups. Por que si casca el nuevo, no sabes que mal rollo daría tener todo en un disco poco fiable.

Eso si, dices que esta para pocos trotes, pero…lo dices por que tiene muchas horas de uso, o años de vida. Por que no por tener muchos años un disco deja de ser mas fiable, si realmente tiene pocas horas de trabajo

Saludos!!

[Kornex]

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@_Neptunno_:

Siempre es bueno tener otro disco duro, para backups. Ese Barracuda que modelo es? es un 7200.12, 7200.11…o es mas viejo? De que fecha es?

Realmente, casi preferiría tener ese disco principal y el otro, aunque lo tengas interno, de backups. Por que si casca el nuevo, no sabes que mal rollo daría tener todo en un disco poco fiable.

Eso si, dices que esta para pocos trotes, pero…lo dices por que tiene muchas horas de uso, o años de vida. Por que no por tener muchos años un disco deja de ser mas fiable, si realmente tiene pocas horas de trabajo

Saludos!!

Es un 7200.10. Viejete, viejete.
Luego si puedo le echo un análisis ya que chirria raro a veces.

EDIT: Visto que no le voy a hacer SLI, quizas sea mucha placa para mi. Con la siguiente me ahorraría unos 30 €, que me podeis decir? Me han hablado bien de ella.
Asus P8Z77-V LX2 - Placa base: Amazon.es: Informática

EDIT2: Pongo el analisis del disco de 3.5 (el viejete)

Marca: Seagate
Model (Optional): Barracuda 7200.10
Configuracion: Disco de almacenamiento interno (Música, videos, documentos y libros)
Capacidad: 500GB
Cache: 16MB
Interface: SATA 2
RPM: 7200 RPM.

EDIT3: Ponlo los detalles del disco duro (Elements) porque lo acabo de sacar de la caja.
Capacidad: 1 Tb
Modelo: WD Scorpio Blue
5VDC: 0.55A
RPM: 5400
Bufer: 8 Mb
SATA, USB 3.0

[Kornex]

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He editado el anterior post para que veais todo lo que me habeis pedido.

[Bm4n]

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Hombre un barracuda 10 tampoco es tan troglodita, poco más te dará un wd blue, si quieres ver buena diferencia lo mejor sería ir a por un ssd de nueva generación. Sobre la placa basé puedes ir por algo más económico pero no mATX a menos que lo necesites por espacio, suelen ser placas más sencillas en todos los aspectos.

[Kornex]

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@Bm4n:

Hombre un barracuda 10 tampoco es tan troglodita, poco más te dará un wd blue, si quieres ver buena diferencia lo mejor sería ir a por un ssd de nueva generación. Sobre la placa basé puedes ir por algo más económico pero no mATX a menos que lo necesites por espacio, suelen ser placas más sencillas en todos los aspectos.

No tengo tanto para un SSD de nueva generación.
Y la asus que puse es ATX

[Sylver]

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No hay problema si el disco está en buen estado, lo suyo es analizarlo también con el Crystal Disk pero las pruebas del HD Tune ya valen.

Aunque no pretendas ampliar la Asus que pones también soporta crossfire y SLI. Yo al menos miraría la Pro3 de ASRock, me gusta más que Asus y en general tienen mejores impresiones con Sandy/Ivy. De todos modos puedes ir a por una u otra que cumplirán perfectamente tus espectativas.

Saludos

[Kornex]

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Entonces esta asrock es compatible no? Es atx y tal?
Asrock Z77 Pro3, 32 GB, 16GB, 1GB, 2GB, 4GB, 8GB, 1066, 1333, 1600, 1866, 2133, 2400 MHz, DDR3-SDRAM, dual, Intel:Amazon:Informática

A mi me dijeron que asrock es la segunda marca de asus. De todos modos me fio mas de vosotros porque ya me ayudasteis anteriormente
Entonces la pro3 o la pro4?