Change graphics on a pre-built PC

[Kornex]

Hello, I need to play BF3 and it's lagging (mainly because of the graphics I'd say). I have this PC (if it's a pre-built, I did something wrong, but it's not that old) with the following specs: Click

Well to the point, I'm coming to this forum because it seems very interesting in terms of Hardware.
I need a graphics card that fits in the slot and improves what I have so I can play. I've read that I'll also need a new one and I've checked this one out

My question is, do you think that power supply would work well with a graphics card you recommend that fits in the ports, doesn't mess with the ventilation and is good for playing some games?

I've been doing some research and I don't need to change the motherboard and all that.

Thanks for your time and consideration.

[Sylver]

Hello and welcome.

That font you put would be fine for your computer, anything is better than the generic one that comes with that HP.
As for the graphics, I don't know exactly the space you have in the case, but for that computer this would be good in terms of characteristics: Sapphire Radeon HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 + Deus Ex 11180-00-20R Graphics Card
It will give you enough to run quite a few games although for the most demanding ones you will have to lower the graphic detail.
Regarding the space in the case I don't know what else to tell you, look up the measurements in the specifications and compare.

Regards

[Kornex]

And while we're at it; comparing the previous source I gave you to this one: Click

As for the graphics, I assume there will be no problem with the PCI-e slot, but I'm not sure if it's X16 as specified. You mean that if there's no problem with the size for the case, it will be perfectly correct for the PC, right?

[packosoft]

the graphics card that says Sylver is not going to work for you because according to the specifications you need a low profile graphics card, that is, one that is shorter than the normal height and I fear that there may not be many moderately powerful low profile graphics cards (at work we installed some x1050s, but those can't even be considered low end xD)

[_Neptunno_]

From what I can see, you can only mount a low-profile graphics card… that is, you would have to look for a "powerful" model in a low profile.
The truth is that this equipment is quite limited by that case, although the micro and memory are not bad, obviously it is not the best but it can defend itself.

Greetings!!

P.D: For example the HD6670 low-profile could work, I don't know if there is a more powerful one with that profile.
I have a GT430 in my HTPC, which practically has a similar micro… although I know there are low-profile GT440s.

[Kornex]

Does that mean I'm screwed? Could you recommend a model that my PC can accept? I looked around for an NVIDIA, I think the 220, but it didn't seem very good.

[packosoft]

In AMD/ATI, apparently the most powerful low-profile is the HD6570

[_Neptunno_]

@Kornex:

Does that mean I'm screwed then? Could you recommend a model that my PC can accept? I looked around for an NVIDIA, I think the 220 but it didn't seem very good to me.

This is a mess, but better than a GT210 (an 8400GS practically), these could work for you:

ALTERNATE - HARDWARE - Graphics cards - NVIDIA PCIe cards - Geforce G/GT - Palit GeForce GT440

ALTERNATE - HARDWARE - Graphics cards - ATI/AMD PCIe cards - Radeon HD6000 - SAPPHIRE HD6670

[_Neptunno_]

@packosoft:

in AMD/ATI apparently the most powerful in low profile is the HD6570

There are also the 6670, but I don't know what performance differences they will have…

[packosoft]

@_Neptunno_:

Tambien estan la 6670, pero no se que diferencias de rendimiento tendran…

esa se me habia pasado, es lo que tiene fiarme de las fotos en miniatura xD

[Kornex]

@packosoft:

in AMD/ATI apparently the most powerful in low profile is the HD6570

It's priced pretty well, right? Click

But as for features, I'm not sure if it could fit well in my PC, I would have to check the size carefully, but I don't know much about the rest…
What I don't understand is why on amazon the 2GB one is 40 cents cheaper than the 1GB one, maybe because of x features?
And comparing the price with the one you mentioned above (the other Sapphire one) it's cheaper...

Oh by the way, I wanted to say that you guys are awesome, it's clear that you know what you're talking about

[_Neptunno_]

@packosoft:

that one had passed me by, that's what happens when you rely on thumbnail photos xD

I had the same problem, until I looked a bit more :risitas:

Anyway, I think they will yield something less than a 9800GT approx. If I remember correctly Sparkle had a low profile GTS250, but it came somewhat capped in power…

Anyway, it's just that BF3 doesn't ask for much processing, but graphics yes...and 4GB of memory are not bad, but well. That's what you get with pre-made computers and on top of that in a slim case

[Kornex]

@_Neptunno_:

Anyway, BF3 doesn't require much processing power, but graphics... and 4GB of memory isn't bad, but well. That's what pre-built computers have, and on top of that, they come in a slim case

Sorry for not wanting to experiment, but if I barely understand now, a year and a half ago I was clueless lol

[Yorus]

Be careful, I think that this computer won't use normal ATX power supplies, so none of the ones you've listed would work.

Here you have more specific data about the computer:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c01899472&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=135&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=3999463&prodTypeId=12454

and here from the power supply it mounts:

http://www.cputopia.com/psu-replace-300-slim-hphp-s5212es.html

Now, the power supply has 80plus certificate, so it's more or less like the one in my computer, and I have an i3 2100 (previously an E5300) and a Radeon 5670 without any problems. So the most powerful thing you can mount is a 6670/5670, but of course, it has to be slim.

[Kornex]

@Yorus:

Cuidado, me da a mi que ese equipo no va a usar fuentes ATX normales, por lo que ninguna de las que has puesto valdría.

Aquí teneis datos mas concretos del equipo:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c01899472&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=135&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=3999463&prodTypeId=12454

y aquí de la fuente que monta:

http://www.cputopia.com/psu-replace-300-slim-hphp-s5212es.html

Ahora, la fuente tiene certificado 80plus, así que es mas o menos como la de mi equipo, y tengo un i3 2100 (anter un E5300) y una Radeon 5670 sin problemas. Así que lo mas potente que puedes montar el una 6670/5670, pero claro, que sea slim.

Que genio, has encontrado las caracteristicas especificas de mi PC, se me habian olvidado las mas reconditas.
Entonces la fuente que tengo esta bien para una HD6570 como la que puse en un link anteriormente y jugar al BF3? Claro, la tarjeta en caso que cupiera, que voy a buscar el tamaño.

[Sylver]

It comes out quite cheap to change the case for a cheap one and that way you can put a decent graphics card and a decent source in it, because it seems to me that even if it comes just right, it's 300W and that in the long run is going to limit the equipment.
With a new case you would run out of limitations when it comes to expanding components.

Greetings

[Kornex]

@Sylver:

It's quite cost-effective for you to change the case for a cheaper one and that way you can put a decent graphics card and a decent power supply in it, because I think that even if it's just enough, it's 300W and that's going to limit the system in the long run.
With a new case you would no longer have limitations when expanding components.

Regards

The thing is, a case change wouldn't mean that some of the components I have wouldn't fit? Because I'm serious, if I can get a case that's not too expensive, the 650W power supply for 47€ that I saw, and a graphics card for about 100€ to play, wouldn't there be any problem?
What hardware would you recommend for me? For the power supply I would choose the one I put in a previous post (not the OCZ, the other one)
Keep in mind that the disc burner is on the side, I don't think it would be a problem to change its position, right?

[Yorus]

That computer with an E7500, a 5650 and that 80plus power supply doesn't reach 100w of consumption while gaming. I have one of those meters that you plug into the outlet and the only one that reached those 100w (maybe peaks of 110w) was with the E2160 + HD5570 + chieftech power supply without 80 plus certification, that was while playing WoW.

[Sylver]

Changing the position of the recorder means absolutely nothing, everyone carries it horizontally, you don't have to worry.

The source you put wouldn't be bad, although for me the OCZ of 650W is more reliable (I have the same but of 500W)
If you change the case for a cheap one (look at the format, don't worry that later you won't fit something not because of the width but because of the height) you could already put the first graphics card that I mentioned to you at the beginning, and with that you would gain a little in every way, at least that's what I would do in your situation if I weren't going to spend a lot of money.

Greetings

[Kornex]

@Sylver:

Changing the position of the recorder doesn't mean absolutely nothing, everyone carries it horizontally, you don't have to worry.

The source you put wouldn't be bad, although for me the OCZ of 650W is more reliable (I have the same but 500W)
If you change the case for a cheap one (look at the format, don't worry that later you won't fit something not because of the width but because of the height) you could already put the first graphics card that I cited to you at the beginning, and with that you would gain a little in every way, at least that's what I would do in your situation if I weren't going to spend a lot of money.

Regards

Little by little we are reaching a conclusion. So regarding the tower so as not to make a mistake you say that it should be an ATX right?
What do you think about this?
http://www.pccomponentes.com/cooler_master_elite_371_negra.html