Change graphics on a pre-built PC

[packosoft]

@_Neptunno_:

Tambien estan la 6670, pero no se que diferencias de rendimiento tendran…

esa se me habia pasado, es lo que tiene fiarme de las fotos en miniatura xD

[Kornex]

@packosoft:

in AMD/ATI apparently the most powerful in low profile is the HD6570

It's priced pretty well, right? Click

But as for features, I'm not sure if it could fit well in my PC, I would have to check the size carefully, but I don't know much about the rest…
What I don't understand is why on amazon the 2GB one is 40 cents cheaper than the 1GB one, maybe because of x features?
And comparing the price with the one you mentioned above (the other Sapphire one) it's cheaper...

Oh by the way, I wanted to say that you guys are awesome, it's clear that you know what you're talking about

[_Neptunno_]

@packosoft:

that one had passed me by, that's what happens when you rely on thumbnail photos xD

I had the same problem, until I looked a bit more :risitas:

Anyway, I think they will yield something less than a 9800GT approx. If I remember correctly Sparkle had a low profile GTS250, but it came somewhat capped in power…

Anyway, it's just that BF3 doesn't ask for much processing, but graphics yes...and 4GB of memory are not bad, but well. That's what you get with pre-made computers and on top of that in a slim case

[Kornex]

@_Neptunno_:

Anyway, BF3 doesn't require much processing power, but graphics... and 4GB of memory isn't bad, but well. That's what pre-built computers have, and on top of that, they come in a slim case

Sorry for not wanting to experiment, but if I barely understand now, a year and a half ago I was clueless lol

[Yorus]

Be careful, I think that this computer won't use normal ATX power supplies, so none of the ones you've listed would work.

Here you have more specific data about the computer:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c01899472&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=135&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=3999463&prodTypeId=12454

and here from the power supply it mounts:

http://www.cputopia.com/psu-replace-300-slim-hphp-s5212es.html

Now, the power supply has 80plus certificate, so it's more or less like the one in my computer, and I have an i3 2100 (previously an E5300) and a Radeon 5670 without any problems. So the most powerful thing you can mount is a 6670/5670, but of course, it has to be slim.

[Kornex]

@Yorus:

Cuidado, me da a mi que ese equipo no va a usar fuentes ATX normales, por lo que ninguna de las que has puesto valdría.

Aquí teneis datos mas concretos del equipo:

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c01899472&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=135&contentType=SupportFAQ&prodSeriesId=3999463&prodTypeId=12454

y aquí de la fuente que monta:

http://www.cputopia.com/psu-replace-300-slim-hphp-s5212es.html

Ahora, la fuente tiene certificado 80plus, así que es mas o menos como la de mi equipo, y tengo un i3 2100 (anter un E5300) y una Radeon 5670 sin problemas. Así que lo mas potente que puedes montar el una 6670/5670, pero claro, que sea slim.

Que genio, has encontrado las caracteristicas especificas de mi PC, se me habian olvidado las mas reconditas.
Entonces la fuente que tengo esta bien para una HD6570 como la que puse en un link anteriormente y jugar al BF3? Claro, la tarjeta en caso que cupiera, que voy a buscar el tamaño.

[Sylver]

It comes out quite cheap to change the case for a cheap one and that way you can put a decent graphics card and a decent source in it, because it seems to me that even if it comes just right, it's 300W and that in the long run is going to limit the equipment.
With a new case you would run out of limitations when it comes to expanding components.

Greetings

[Kornex]

@Sylver:

It's quite cost-effective for you to change the case for a cheaper one and that way you can put a decent graphics card and a decent power supply in it, because I think that even if it's just enough, it's 300W and that's going to limit the system in the long run.
With a new case you would no longer have limitations when expanding components.

Regards

The thing is, a case change wouldn't mean that some of the components I have wouldn't fit? Because I'm serious, if I can get a case that's not too expensive, the 650W power supply for 47€ that I saw, and a graphics card for about 100€ to play, wouldn't there be any problem?
What hardware would you recommend for me? For the power supply I would choose the one I put in a previous post (not the OCZ, the other one)
Keep in mind that the disc burner is on the side, I don't think it would be a problem to change its position, right?

[Yorus]

That computer with an E7500, a 5650 and that 80plus power supply doesn't reach 100w of consumption while gaming. I have one of those meters that you plug into the outlet and the only one that reached those 100w (maybe peaks of 110w) was with the E2160 + HD5570 + chieftech power supply without 80 plus certification, that was while playing WoW.

[Sylver]

Changing the position of the recorder means absolutely nothing, everyone carries it horizontally, you don't have to worry.

The source you put wouldn't be bad, although for me the OCZ of 650W is more reliable (I have the same but of 500W)
If you change the case for a cheap one (look at the format, don't worry that later you won't fit something not because of the width but because of the height) you could already put the first graphics card that I mentioned to you at the beginning, and with that you would gain a little in every way, at least that's what I would do in your situation if I weren't going to spend a lot of money.

Greetings

[Kornex]

@Sylver:

Changing the position of the recorder doesn't mean absolutely nothing, everyone carries it horizontally, you don't have to worry.

The source you put wouldn't be bad, although for me the OCZ of 650W is more reliable (I have the same but 500W)
If you change the case for a cheap one (look at the format, don't worry that later you won't fit something not because of the width but because of the height) you could already put the first graphics card that I cited to you at the beginning, and with that you would gain a little in every way, at least that's what I would do in your situation if I weren't going to spend a lot of money.

Regards

Little by little we are reaching a conclusion. So regarding the tower so as not to make a mistake you say that it should be an ATX right?
What do you think about this?
http://www.pccomponentes.com/cooler_master_elite_371_negra.html

[packosoft]

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ojo que las placas y demás HP no suelen tener formato estandar y es posible que no se pueda montar en una caja ATX normal.
Puedes ponernos una foto del interior de tu equipo?

[Kornex]

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@packosoft:

ojo que las placas y demás HP no suelen tener formato estandar y es posible que no se pueda montar en una caja ATX normal.
Puedes ponernos una foto del interior de tu equipo?

Faltaria mas. Queria decir que perdon por que no este muy limpio pero la ultima vez que le limpie por dentro fue hace unos 3/4 meses :D. Y queria decir tambien que la grafica esta en la PCI-e X16. Tambien os pongo una foto del equipo del monitor, aunque no importa mucho debido a que eso me tira mejor que perfecto.

Aqui todas las fotos posibles.

[Yorus]

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Yo diría que salvo el color del PCB la placa es como la que puse anoche en un enlace:

con lo que sería una microATX normal. Lo que ya me da mas dudas es la chapa donde los conectores (I/O shield), aunque en una de las fotos tiene pinta que tambien se puede quitar.

Por cierto Kornex, ahora mismo tengo delante un monitor y unos altavoces idénticos, jeje. Lo que no acierto a ver si el monitor es de 17 o 19". El que tengo aquí es de 19" pero en mi piso tengo uno idéntico de 17" para los trasteos, y ambos son de 1280x1024.

[Kornex]

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Que casualidad hombre, la verdad es que los altavoces son brutales.
En cuanto a lo de desmontar todo y esas cosas, si necesitas alguna foto mas especifica o datos mas especificos te los puedo mirar. A ver si alguien me comenta de una torre que vaya bien para este cacharro jajaja.

[Tecnho]

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En esa cooler master que pones te entra sin problemas ya que como te comenta Yorus es una M-ATX, y una vez en esa cja verás que bien respira el pc, que estos de HP y Philips hacen unos pc.rar XD.

[packosoft]

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placa base Pegatron, ya solo faltan Megatron y el resto de Decepticons xDDD
volviendo al tema, parece como dice Yorus, que aparte de tener los conectores traseros en una posicion un tanto extraña, la chapa trasera si parece standar

[Kornex]

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@Tecnho:

En esa cooler master que pones te entra sin problemas ya que como te comenta Yorus es una M-ATX, y una vez en esa cja verás que bien respira el pc, que estos de HP y Philips hacen unos pc.rar XD.

Jajajaja, muy bueno, lo del pc.rar lo he pillado. Humor informatico

[Kornex]

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@packosoft:

placa base Pegatron, ya solo faltan Megatron y el resto de Decepticons xDDD
volviendo al tema, parece como dice Yorus, que aparte de tener los conectores traseros en una posicion un tanto extraña, la chapa trasera si parece standar

Entonces que significa todo lo que has dicho en un lenguaje un poco menos ironico? jajaja
En cuanto a lo de los conectores traseros, se podría reemplazar para la torre ATX? Es decir, podria poner lo del HP a la otra torre?

[_Neptunno_]

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@Kornex:

Entonces que significa todo lo que has dicho en un lenguaje un poco menos ironico? jajaja
En cuanto a lo de los conectores traseros, se podría reemplazar para la torre ATX? Es decir, podria poner lo del HP a la otra torre?

Bueno, eso es lo de menos. Lo importante es que puedes desmontar tu placa base y meterla en una torre como la que comentas. Añades la fuente de alimentación decente y compras una HD6850, por ejemplo o buscas alguna HD5850 que es algo mejor, aunque el numero sea inferior :risitas: También esta como opción una GTX 460 de segunda mano, o alguna HD6870 si encuentras una buena oferta.
Y tienes PC para rato y jugar al BF3 y a algunos juegos más. Posiblemente no andes sobrado de micro, pero desde luego con la GT210 no juegas a nada posterior a 2005 medianamente ni de loco (salvo Plantas VS Zombies, jaja)

Entre caja + fuente + gráfica pon unos 180-200€ +/- que creo no están. Pero eso es ya cuestión de lo que pensabas gastarte
De todos modos se pueden ajustar un poco las cosas, para saber un precio mas exacto de la “ampliación del PC”.

Saludos!