[Review by ELP3] AMD Radeon FURY X
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Un saludo Handrox mucho tiempo, yo estoy bien, un poco desconectado de esto.
Lo del bus gigante yo no le veo mucho beneficio, salvo para meter 3 o 4 y 4K que es donde el ancho de banda puede destacar o descargar un poco al CPU, pero los 4Gb la van a limitar.
Ademas que una 390X no creo que ande corta de ancho de banda, por que las 970 tienen mucho menos y ya la 960 pareceria ridiculo el ancho de banda.
Yo creo que esa HBM esta un poco verde, debe ser cara y tiene gran limitacion por ser de 1Gb, tendria ya que ser de 2Gb cada chip.Con una de esta y buscando configuraciones jugables quiza pueda ir con esos 4GB, pero viendo el desproposito de juegos que sacan en cuanto a consumo de memoria y optimizacion, yo desde luego hasta los 6GB de una 980Ti se me hacen poco, aunque claro hablando de 4k y configuraciones de 3 tarjetas.
Para mi que sigo a 1080p no y viendo lo que ocurre creo que tardare mucho en cambiar de resolucion, por que supone un gasto muy grande para que al final la mayoria de juegos salgan con mil fallos.
Ese de Digitalstorm se ha fumado algo, lo del heaven yo no me lo creo, hay otro usuario que ha pasado tambien el heaven y la verdad que me parece extraño que superen en eso a una 980Ti, si vemos que hasta la 980 con OC ya se aproxima mucho la Ti y mas aun la Titan X van a destacar en eso y una 980 nunca las va a hacer sombra.
saludos
Ojala sirva eso de sumar la memoria por que sino la memoria grafica va a superar a la del sistema, vamos a necesitar mas.
Yo ultimamente no quiero meter mas de una tarjeta, si ya hay que pelearse con una, para los juegos que sacan, dos es que no me apetece.espero que W10 tire bien, pero cosas que hacen como lo del ultimo Batman que encargan el port a unos pocos programadores sin medios, que hacen un cutreport y luego toca arreglarlo a parches y driver, pues la verdad lo mejor es jugar cuando cueste 10€ o menos que lo mismo ya arreglaron la mayoria de fallos.
Saludos
Pues, yo tbm he andando desconectado de todo eso jajajaja Que bien veros.. hace mucho que no hablamos jejejejeje
Pues que te digo del Fiji, parece que falta potencia pa utilizar toda esa banda… creo que AMD dio un paso muy largo en mal momento, hubiera esperado en siguiente nodo pa empezar con el HBM, con un chip mas poblado y potente.. ese doble Tonga no fue bastante... saludos..
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Hello, I'm glad to "see" you, I hadn't read ELP3 in a long time. Disappointment, that's the only thing that comes to mind. I expected more, I really like its compact size, its integrated liquid, the new memory.... but fps are fps, and as I always say, my religion forbids me to lose frames. Now I'm at 2K with a GTX 970 SLI, I hoped that a Fury X would surpass it, but it's clear that it doesn't, not even a 980TI achieves it in brute force. The good side, my wallet, will be resting until Pascal ;D Best regards -
Well, I've also been disconnected from all that hahaha How good to see you all.. it's been a long time since we talked hahaha
So what can I say about the Fiji, it seems like it lacks the power to use all that bandwidth… I think AMD took a big step in the wrong direction, I would have waited for the next node to start with HBM, with a more populated and powerful chip.. that double Tonga wasn't enough... regards..
What I think is that AMD got caught a bit off guard, because I suppose they were planning to manufacture at 20nm, but in the end that TSMC process is disastrous and they had no choice but to go with what they had.
Nvidia gave up that process a long time ago and Maxwell gives them the advantage of having very good performance per watt
But it's bad for competition and prices which is what matters, this is what AMD should have done when Nvidia launched the 970 and 980, I'm not talking about the Fury but the 300 series, they should have launched them earlier.
regards
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Hello, I'm glad to "see" you, I hadn't read from you in a while ELP3.
Disappointment, that's the only thing that comes to mind. I expected more, I really like its compact size, its integrated liquid, the new memory.... but fps are fps, and as I always say, my religion forbids me to lose frames.
Now I'm at 2K with a GTX 970 SLI, I hoped that a Fury X would surpass it, but it's clear that it doesn't, not even a 980TI achieves it in brute force. The good side, my wallet, will be resting until Pascal ;D
Best regards
Hey Mr. Pepillo!
What a joy to hear from good people..;)
Well no, the truth is that nvidia hit the nail on the head with the maxwell, and despite the mess of the 3,5+0,5GB. that SLI with what it oceans, vale, and spends…has no rival for 2K resolutions. That little card is a delight.
A big hug Pepillo, I'm very happy to hear from you again.
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I suffer from the same stuttering issue you mentioned in Witcher 3, both with a 780ti and with my tri sli, it's not a matter of power, since the fps are very high, it's about optimization and drivers.
Honestly, I have hope that through drivers things will improve, not just for fps, but for smoothness and consistency, I can't believe they would release a product with such problems …
But well, NVidia has been doing things wrong for quite some time, 970 with its vram and for months with the drivers, kepler bug (probably on purpose) and now with the 980ti and titan x a lot of people with Tdr and brutal fps drops.
The GeForce forums are on fire XD.
Anyway, when you have the time and desire, test games so that we can at least compare XD.
Best regards, dude!!!
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Wow, how long has it been since I last came here, it's great to see so many good people.
And what can I say about Elp3, a genius as always, the hours he's spent doing tests, he usually comments on other channels about the new features and what they are and as always without making a mistake, he gets it all right dude ;D
And about the Fury, what can I say, I'm one of those who hoped they would be good, at least against the 980 TI but I see that's not the case, at least for now and possibly for the same reason as always, the drivers, you can't go 6 months without updating them :mad:Anyway, a great comparison and as always many thanks Elp3.
Cheers everyone.
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Hello ELP3 and CIA, long time no see :D. It seems that the itch is somewhat restless with the heat because I have been bitten again too, xDDD. After a period full of events and brutal expenses (Flat, furniture, wedding…) and the more or less return to tranquility I am compiling information to build a new PC :D.
From what I have seen on various websites and in the enormously useful review of the compi ELP3, as is customary for him :D, the wait for the release of this new Fury X has not personally been worth it. I think the GTX 980ti will definitely be the option for this summer.
Greetings to all, what a pleasure it is to read you again :D.
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Hello ELP3 and CIA, long time no see :D. It seems that the itch is a bit restless with the heat because I've been bitten again too, xDDD. After a period full of events and brutal expenses (Flat, furniture, wedding…) and more or less back to tranquility, I'm gathering information to build a new PC :D.
From what I've seen on various websites and in the extremely useful review of my friend ELP3, as is customary for him :D, the wait for the release of this new Fury X has not personally been worth it. I think the GTX 980ti will definitely be the option for this summer.
Greetings to everyone, what a pleasure it is to read you again :D.
Hello txemote long time no see, we always come back here but I'm increasingly reluctant to buy any hardware, not only because it's expensive but also because the games turn out badly.
If I get the itch for those Maxwells because they seem to be going up well, but in the end I hope because the graphics cards are getting to prices never seen before, that's why lately I think more about spending.
Regards
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Vaya..
The "old guard" is back
It's a pleasure to read you all.
As I say, it's always good to have good people...;)
A hug to all...
Especially to txemote, who has already married us! haha
You have nothing to expect...xD
A hug to all.
P.D.
All the reviews of Fury have already come out, you have already seen that they coincide more or less with what I put, and do not expect anything more, because I do not have it anymore..
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You liked it little or it was borrowed XD.
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Vaya..
The "old guard" is back
It's a pleasure to read you all.
As I say, it's always good to have good people…;)
A hug to everyone...
Especially to txemote, who has already joined us! jaja
You have nothing to expect…xD
A hug to everyone.
P.D.
All the reviews of Fury have come out, you've already seen that they more or less coincide with what I said, and don't expect anything more, because I don't have it anymore..
Such old guard that even the most reckless fall down under the altar….:troll:
Your card didn't last long, I suppose it was borrowed, because for a return it would be a record time. Although, seeing that performance and price, the experiment loses "the charm" because you can't get much more out of it, and knowing the TitanX or GTX 980 Ti in performance and "tinkering".... there's not much more to say, except:
AMD, LOWER the prices.
That's the only lifeline for this model and others. I don't know why they went crazy with the prices in these launches, I don't know what the people in charge were thinking. This way you can't compete from a minority position in the market. That only works when you dominate it, it goes without saying (and nvidia knows it perfectly).
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Wow so many people I know :risitas:
Greetings to all jejejeje.I think they would have to lower the price a lot to justify them, maybe it's a matter of drivers, but they don't perform as expected (at least as they had advertised them as "Titan hunters x" lol) not even at the level of the Ti.
On top of that there's the issue of the interposer that connects the chip with the HBM ram, which turns out to be as delicate as possible and if you remove the heatsink and don't clean the thermal paste carefully, you'll fry the chip quickly, according to what I read in several places.Greetings. ;D
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I hope this helps to add more memory because otherwise the graphics memory will surpass that of the system, we will need more.
Lately I don't want to put more than one card, if you already have to fight with one, for the games they release, two is not my thing.I hope W10 runs well, but things they do like the last Batman that they commission the port to a few programmers without resources, who make a cutreport and then you have to fix it with patches and drivers, well the truth is that it's best to play when it costs €10 or less because they have already fixed most of the bugs.
Regards
I was always a monogpu guy but the resolution commands and with 4K I started with SLI GTX 980 which performed quite similar to the Titan or a little better with 1 graphic, in most games SLI moves around 40fps with drops to 30fps.
If DX12 delivers on that 50% improvement it could be close to 60 fps otherwise I would add the Titan to test, 3 for me unthinkable a while ago.
I would also like to see if in W10 the memories of these Fury X achieve some improvement in a CF against the traditional DDR5 memory of a CF 390X, say.
Regards.-
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By Facebook, on the AMD page.. hahaha it's for laughing not crying..
Harima Kenji I'm really shocked with this card, first it doesn't beat the 980ti which pisses me off, second you put a fucking water kit and don't cool the phases? are you serious? 104 degrees under load? it's normal that you can handle overclocking, seriously your engineers are fucking awesome
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Crack XD, truths as fists … Seeing the reviews, I've missed the hype, we'll see if it's the same with dx12...
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For sure, the best thing out there in reviews. Only 4K, though.
Paraphrasing Ballmer: Controllers, controllers, controllers.Confirms what ELP3 says, although they make a very conservative critique - well done, on the other hand, after all, their job is not to rant.
AMD's Radeon R9 Fury X graphics card reviewed - The Tech Report - Page 1
And many thanks, ELP3 for bothering to do your preview.
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Since they are testing, they could update drivers, the 353.06 improve something in kepler and the 353.30 another step more, according to nvidia they are correcting bugs... I lean towards the idea that they have been capping performance to favor maxwell and thus sell something more, details like not including more than mid-range of the 7 series in the datasheet of the 350.12 and the reviews that have been done by users betray them XD.
Nowadays, no one is safe.
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I've always been a monogpu user, but resolution is king, and with 4K, I started with SLI GTX 980, which performed quite similar to the Titan or a bit better with 1 GPU. In most games, SLI runs at about 40fps with drops to 30fps.
If DX12 delivers on that 50% improvement, it could be close to 60fps; otherwise, I'd add a Titan to test it, which was unthinkable for me a while ago.
I'd also like to see if, on W10, the memory of these Fury X can achieve any improvement in a CF setup compared to the traditional DDR5 memory of a CF 390X.
Best regards.
But 4K should be able to run at 60fps if you lower the settings; you shouldn't need the filters that much. If I see it dropping to 30 or 40fps on low settings, I'd rather lose quality than smoothness and agility.
I don't believe the DX12 hype until I see it for myself. Lately, I've seen a lot of marketing about graphics, processors, and systems, and in the end, it doesn't deliver. Graphics progress is slowing down, CPU improvements are barely noticeable, and prices are going up across the board.
This time, looking at the prices of the 980Ti when it came out, I thought that those who bought the Titan X at launch had the best justification. It's very expensive, but it has maintained the price of previous Titans while the GTX series has gone up. It has the full chip and 12GB, which justifies the price difference more and, above all, they have it earlier.
As for the memory, we'll see how it works and if it doesn't cause a bunch of problems. W10 might improve things a bit, but I don't expect 50%; maybe in some things like being able to display more objects, but in most things, I don't think it will be noticeable.
Best regards.
@Handrox:On Facebook, on the AMD page... hahaha, good for a laugh, not for crying...
Harima Kenji I'm really disappointed with this card. First, it doesn't outperform the 980ti, which bothers me. Second, you put a water-cooling kit on it and didn't cool the phases? Seriously? 104 degrees under load? It's normal that you can handle overclocking, but seriously, your engineers are a bunch of losers
If they have cooling on the phases, there's a RL tube that covers the phases. The thing is, they're digital phases and they get hot, but they do have a metal RL tube for the phases.
Anyway, AMD has done more than I thought, considering the TDP of the 290x, the performance per watt, and without an architecture change.
I thought they would change it a bit to GCN 1.2 and lower manufacturing costs, because I don't think it's very profitable to compete with 512-bit and 8GB cards against 256-bit and 4GB cards. The 380 competes with 256-bit against the 128 of a 960, which must cost Nvidia a fortune to manufacture. Some 960 PCBs are a disgrace, which makes it harder for them to set aggressive prices.
But this will affect us all when buying; we'll pay more and get more ridiculous advancements.
Best regards
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But 4K should be able to run at 60 fps if you lower the options, you shouldn't need the filters that much. I really, if I see it dropping to 30 or 40 fps when I lower things, I'd rather lose quality than smoothness and agility.
I don't believe in Dx12 until I see it, because lately I see a lot of marketing about graphics, processors, and systems, and then in the end it's not fulfilled. Graphics are advancing less and less, CPU is barely noticeable, what I do see is a price increase in everything.
This time, seeing the prices of the 980Ti when it came out, I thought that those who bought the Titan X when it came out have the best justification. It's very expensive, but it has maintained the price of previous Titans while the GTXs have gone up. They have the full chip and 12 GB, which at least justifies the price difference more and, above all, they have them earlier.
The memory thing, we'll see how it works and if it doesn't cause a bunch of problems. Something did improve with W10, but I don't expect 50%, maybe in some things like being able to display more objects, but in most things I don't think it will be noticeable.
Saludos
Surely this is like always, that 50% in the end will be 30%, but it compensates me a lot and if the Titan adds another 20% welcome, as they are continuous ranges and the same type of memory, I see it as possible. Everyone has their own style of play. The 30fps was always my limit and always ultra and without filters in 4K.
Now the problem I see that could happen with the Fury is that having a different type of memory, it might not get along with the other AMD in W10.
It will be interesting to see when W10 comes out if ELP3, with its wide variety of graphics, dares to test how the compatibilities of graphics of the same generation work, mixing graphics of different generations, even Amd-Nvidia, or simply demonstrating that in the end not everything works as it was said.
Saludos.-
