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    • QVENGADORQ Desconectado
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      I attach the configuration I have made for them to assemble it for me at pccomponentes.
      As you can see it does not have a graphics card. I currently have the RTX 2070 super and I want to get a bit more out of it before changing it. The micro I have now does not get the most out of it as it should be a bottleneck.
      And I have thought about buying another PC with a better micro than the one I have with a view to the future. In addition to adding the graphics card to the new PC, I am also going to add a 500 GB Samsung SSD and the Xonar Phoebus card I mentioned.
      I would appreciate your opinions. Thank you very much in advance.
      www.pccomponentes.com/configurador/B8273a5b0
      I have edited the link, I don't know what was wrong with it. I'm sorry.

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        The Ryzen 7 5800X3D performs very well for gaming due to the 3D cache, although for other tasks it is a bit lower in performance than the 5800X because the frequency is somewhat lower and you can't overclock it here. I also tell you that the frequency difference is very small and you would hardly notice it, but in return you have excellent performance in games.
        However, for example the "normal" 5800X is also a good option, and if not any i7 from 12Gen can be a success. The 11 and 12Gen from Intel are good alternatives since, except for the one I mentioned with 3D cache, Intel put a lot of effort into surpassing AMD in gaming, however I sacrifice a bit of what is performance in other types of environments. This does not mean that Intel is only for gaming, mind you. It's just a way to put more pressure on their rival.

        Any Intel 11/12Gen i7 and any Ryzen 7 will get the most out of that RTX2070S. And the X3D a little more if possible.

        Best regards!

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          Hello, I don't know which tower you have bought. But from experience I would say that it is essential in any type of configuration. Wide, good material and that allows an airflow that goes out where it has to go. That allows you to have the cables well organized and not in any way. Before everything else, my advice is that you buy a good tower, if possible a large one that allows future upgrades without problems. The companions who are more experienced in hardware and in fact work a lot on it, will surely advise you well as Neptune has done. Regarding the 11th generation of Intel, I have not had the luck to try it in Pc format, but yes in laptop And I radically advise against it. I think it is a real toaster. Ryzen by head.

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            @qvengador I can't see what components you've chosen...
            As they say, a good tower is forever.
            A Corsair Series 5000 costs around 200€ on Amazon.
            And you have a great tower.
            The R.L you've put in seems very low to me, to match an "adequate" air cooler you need a 360 mm radiator
            A 120 mm one will give the same performance as a normal cooler, don't expect much performance and it will probably be noisier.
            Personally, I prefer to unify and that's why I've become a bit of a "fan" of Corsair, it's a bit more expensive than other brands but it allows you to control everything with a single program.
            iCue.
            In my case, tower (fans) R.L
            RAM and F.A.
            So I only have two programs, iCue and AMD's Catalys.
            About the mn2, in a post I hung the performance captures of my raid 0 with two 500 gs.
            When I have time (which I don't)
            I'll look if it performs better without the raid 0 with just one mn2 on port 1.
            But I doubt it.
            And when I have more time I'll look at a raid 0 of 3 mn2.
            With that I mean that if you get a 1 Tera mn2 (I don't know why) and a 4 Tera storage SSD, I don't see much sense in the 1 Tera mn2.
            Regards

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              I agree with @_Neptunno_.

              Just one objection, for that configuration I would previously put an aio 2x14 or 3x12, better temperatures and less noise.

              Ryzen 5 3600 - Tuf B550 pro - 2x 8g 3600c18 - Strix rtx 2060 - M2 1TB

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                Well I don't see the setup anywhere. It leads me to the configurator of that store.

                Cluster MPI de tres nodos formado por tres SERVIDORRES HP PROLIANT DL360P 1U 2X E5-2680V2 CPU'S, 20 cores, 40 hilos a una frecuencia base de 2,8GHz. 192 GB de memoria RAM DDR3 ECC (8 x módulos de16 GB 800Mhz)´+ 1U 2X E5.-2697 V2 a una frecuencia base de 2,8 Ghz 192 GB de Ram ECC (8 módulos de 16 Gb 800 mhz) 24 Cores 48 hilos ( 44c/88T)+ 1u 2xE5 2603v2 con una frecuencia base de 1,9ghz 64 Gb DDR3 ecc (4x módulos de 16)

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                  @jordiqui sends me to the configurator but with the choices made by @QVENGADOR

                  Ryzen 5 3600 - Tuf B550 pro - 2x 8g 3600c18 - Strix rtx 2060 - M2 1TB

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                    @defaultuser said in I ask you to look at this pc configuration that I have made:

                    @jordiqui to me it sends me to the configurator but with the choices made by @QVENGADOR

                    That is what I do not understand, because I see your responses and I understand that the configuration made appears to you.

                    Cluster MPI de tres nodos formado por tres SERVIDORRES HP PROLIANT DL360P 1U 2X E5-2680V2 CPU'S, 20 cores, 40 hilos a una frecuencia base de 2,8GHz. 192 GB de memoria RAM DDR3 ECC (8 x módulos de16 GB 800Mhz)´+ 1U 2X E5.-2697 V2 a una frecuencia base de 2,8 Ghz 192 GB de Ram ECC (8 módulos de 16 Gb 800 mhz) 24 Cores 48 hilos ( 44c/88T)+ 1u 2xE5 2603v2 con una frecuencia base de 1,9ghz 64 Gb DDR3 ecc (4x módulos de 16)

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                    • defaultuserD Desconectado
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                      @jordiqui Prueba este a ver: www.pccomponentes.com/configurador/Fd394a6c8

                      Ryzen 5 3600 - Tuf B550 pro - 2x 8g 3600c18 - Strix rtx 2060 - M2 1TB

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                        @defaultuser
                        https://www.pccomponentes.com/configurador/B8273a5b0.
                        That is the configuration.
                        Regards

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                          @clipper Yes, I see it, but Jordi doesn't.

                          Ryzen 5 3600 - Tuf B550 pro - 2x 8g 3600c18 - Strix rtx 2060 - M2 1TB

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                            @defaultuser I hope you can see it now.
                            Best regards

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                              Apañao ?

                              Ryzen 5 3600 - Tuf B550 pro - 2x 8g 3600c18 - Strix rtx 2060 - M2 1TB

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                                Now yes. The tower that I mentioned before. That liquid cooling, Kit, I understand that at least one radiator must be 360 and the pump next to the block (everything is relevant) to do their function. This one I see looks like it doesn't improve at all a good air solution. If I'm not mistaken, the 13th generation is already out, so I think I would go for this Intel Core i9-13900K 3 GHz Box without hesitation or even an i7 13 because they have improved compared to the previous version. At least, in my opinion, I would change the tower and the liquid cooling. These two things for sure. Regarding the micro, the i7 has 16 physical cores. Since the i9 goes up compared to the one you have configured. But if the 13th has come out, if you buy the 12th, I understand that there must be cheaper motherboards to be able to improve what was mentioned. But I insist on the tower and the liquid cooling, the 360 radiator with a good block and pump. If not, air like noctua.

                                Cluster MPI de tres nodos formado por tres SERVIDORRES HP PROLIANT DL360P 1U 2X E5-2680V2 CPU'S, 20 cores, 40 hilos a una frecuencia base de 2,8GHz. 192 GB de memoria RAM DDR3 ECC (8 x módulos de16 GB 800Mhz)´+ 1U 2X E5.-2697 V2 a una frecuencia base de 2,8 Ghz 192 GB de Ram ECC (8 módulos de 16 Gb 800 mhz) 24 Cores 48 hilos ( 44c/88T)+ 1u 2xE5 2603v2 con una frecuencia base de 1,9ghz 64 Gb DDR3 ecc (4x módulos de 16)

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                                  @defaultuser Gracias

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                                    You can look at something like this:
                                    https://www.pccomponentes.com/talius-cronos-cristal-templado-usb-30-rgb?utm_source=176013&utm_medium=afi&utm_campaign=es.redbrain.shop&awc=20981_1667760756_aa6f2433b7f08bffee9875846eceefa6&utm_term=deeplink&utm_content=es.redbrain.shop
                                    Or you can pull the blanket over your head and this is:
                                    https://www.pccomponentes.com/corsair-icue-5000x-torre-atx-rgb-cristal-templado-negra
                                    That's the one I have. But if you find the 7000 on sale, don't hesitate.
                                    My R.l
                                    https://www.pccomponentes.com/corsair-icue-h150i-rgb-pro-xt
                                    I bought almost everything on Black Friday, at a lower price.
                                    I'll also tell you one thing: both the Corsair Series 5000 and 7000 towers with glass panels have the same defect, if you mount the radiator horizontally at the top, you can't mount double fans, pull push because the glass / cover won't let you vent the air.
                                    You have the same series with a grille instead of glass, to each their own...
                                    But for me it's a mess on the part of Corsair.
                                    Best regards

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                                      New configuration with your corrections:
                                      I would like the micro to be intel and putting another one of generation 13 raises it a lot. Especially with the new corrections.
                                      Presupuesto_2.JPG

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                                        @qvengador said in I ask you to look at this pc configuration I made:

                                        New configuration with your corrections:
                                        I would like the micro to be intel and putting another one of generation 13 raises it a lot. Especially with the new corrections.
                                        Presupuesto_2.JPG

                                        But the i7 that I told you about earlier costs less (13 gen) and has 16 physical cores. Although in the case of intel I think it reserves cores for efficiency then it would give 24 threads, I think for 32 in the case of the i9 13gen. Intel has had the deference to allow mounting with the new generation ddr4, and not just 5 like AMD. The performance difference between the i9 3,2 of 12 and the i7 of 13. Where there is a difference is in the cache 3, 36 in the i9 by 30 in the i7. In any case, it is the multiprocessing where there is more difference between the i9 and the i7.

                                        According to this people: If we compare the top CPUs this and the previous generation only in games, you can experience performance improvements of up to 24%.
                                        Honestly, I personally prefer the Ryzen, but if I were to buy intel, in tower format, I would definitely go for the 13 gen, although I always waited for updates when I was messing with these things.
                                        The i7 13gen costs 538 euros.
                                        Look at this in terms of performance:
                                        intel 13.jpg
                                        That is, better performance being an i7. Now I think that among all we have contributed information, although I understand that it is difficult to choose. While you look at that bench, where in multiprocessing it is almost the same, with the difference that it is cheaper, the last generation and with the latest intel chipset you will have a team for a few years.

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                                          @qvengador said in I ask you to look at this pc configuration that I have made:

                                          New configuration with your corrections:
                                          I would like the micro to be intel and putting another one of generation 13 raises it a lot. Especially with the new corrections.
                                          Presupuesto_2.JPG

                                          The tower is already another thing. That one I think is a good choice. Regarding the prices of generation 12 and 13, I have been looking and they cost almost the same.

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                                            Usually, the more modern version is worth it even if it's a slightly inferior model, I'm not up to date with intel but from what jordiqui says, it seems that's what's happening in this case.
                                            If the platform is also more modern, it would be worth looking into as there could be other advantages or improvements beyond the net performance of the cpu.

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