First tests of Nvidia's 980 and 970
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I don't know if you've heard that the famous 3dmark chart is based on data collected from websites and estimates from the site itself. In fact, the 3dmark screenshots are from January if I remember correctly, so they don't have anything tangible to publish while the NDA is in place.
Also, you're acting as a futurologist about the performance of the GM204. I don't know if you have data to contribute, but I can tell you that a 750 Ti is not faster than a 650 Ti Boost. Comparing the similar vs 780 Ti, it's 50% less bandwidth and bus with the +35% push of Maxwell.
There's talk that the GM204 will come with 1920 CUDA cores (15 SM) and 32 ROPs, based on the chip size seen in the leak.
With these characteristics, I don't doubt, but I almost guarantee that it's not more powerful than a 780 Ti and barely more powerful than a 780.
Same example in 750 Ti vs 650 Ti Boost, 650 Ti 768 CUDA cores vs 750 Ti 640 CUDA cores, 192 bits vs 128 bits, very similar percentages to see that the 980 would have to have at least 2560 CUDA cores and 64 ROPs to outperform the GK110.
The 1920 CUDA cores and 32 ROPs simply can't perform like the 2880 CUDA cores of Kepler and even the 2/4 MB of L2, double registers or the 128 KB of L1 won't make up for the -50% bandwidth and 25% less CUDA cores.
The architecture is good, well implemented, very modular and scalable, but the 780 Ti performs like a beast and NVIDIA will have to put meat on the grill if they want to approach or surpass it.
The rest are mere conjectures we're making, otherwise, we'll see it on Friday XD.
Best regards.
What a powned you got, didn't you?, after saying against all odds that they were slower than the 780/Ti… :ffu::ffu:
¡Zas! That's a blow. They're 7.5% faster than the Ti, at 4K. The same they get at 1080p. And cheaper, by the way.
And with OC they gain more performance, out of the factory tight, nothing:
Given that they gain 14.6% with OC (a good OC anywhere in the world of GPUs), that multiplies the average result before of 107.5% of a Ti, this is:
123% of the performance of a GTX 780 Ti (yes, and I refuse to explain that percentages don't add up, who doesn't know why should review their math).
Where are those cards that were going to be slower? Ayayayyyy….
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This reminds me of Lope's olives... :ugly:
Edit: @wwwendigo: And the source is...
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This reminds me of Lope's olives... :ugly:
Edit: @wwwendigo: And the source is...
This one:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_980/1.html
A review that I especially like because it tests many games and many resolutions, yyy…. and the tests are more or less up to date with other graphics cards (they run all the tests every now and then on all graphics cards).
In reviews like the ones from anandtech, techreport, you can see easy OCs of 1400-1500 MHz with the hat, and performance improvements of 15-20%.
The cards are more than enough, I don't know why we keep comparing cuda cores and other things that have nothing to do with it (the real minimum unit of shader execution is not a CC, it's at the SMX/SMM level), haven't we learned anything with the GTX 750 Ti?
At that point it should have been clear that maxwell got more practical and real performance with "less hard" thanks to the rebalancing of much of its design. Moreover, it's not even a direct transfer of maxwell on a larger scale, it's literally a maxwell 2.0, the issue of ROPs, seeing that the L2 didn't grow, all the new features for DX11.x and 12 support, etc.
None of the rules of the game with previous kepler apply with maxwell, they are very different.
PD: Something that really catches my attention is the performance improvement in cases where "proAMD" games are used that rendered "badly" on Kepler, many seem to run significantly better on Maxwell, it seems to be a side effect of the redesign of the architecture to increase its practicality and sustained operation.
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I don't know if there's a trick to this, but that 980 frequency seems amazing to me, it doesn't seem so tight if a model already uploaded reaches that boost, they should have shown captures but if it goes up to that it doesn't seem like they're going up badly.
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 G1 Gaming review - Overclocking The Graphics Card
At least the afterburner does show the bar at full and 1547mhz, I don't know if it's an error but if it's true it seems like it goes up quite a bit.
I don't know if the bios can be edited for this and the power target can be increased a lot and more voltage can be added, but however it can be done it seems like they go up.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=26927253
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What a powned you've got, right?, after saying against all odds that they were slower than the 780/Ti… :ffu::ffu:
¡Zas! There goes the kick. 7.5% faster than the Ti, at 4K. The same as it pulls at 1080p. And cheaper, by the way.
As a 2-screen 4K user, what convinced me was the SLI 970 for $150 more than the GTX 980, there's quite a difference in performance, with most games staying around 60 fps, with some exceptions.
With HDMI 2.0 and HEVC support, I'm almost bought on the Asus Strix SLI GTX 970, and who doesn't say a third if the scaling is good in a TRI, unless information comes out that shows me that the future 20nm maxwell is very good in performance, in which case I doubt it will be cheaper than an SLI GTX 970
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Hello everyone.
The truth is that I am totally disconnected from this little world, it is good to do so even if you don't believe me...;)
However, I have been very surprised by the new architecture. It really has a potential and efficiency never seen before...
My curiosity has been so piqued, that perhaps with luck, as I still have contacts, in a few hours we will see a few GTX 980 in action...;D
Best regards.
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Hello everyone.
The truth is that I am totally disconnected from this little world, it's good to do it even if you don't believe me..;)
However, I have been very surprised by the new architecture. It really has a potential and efficiency never seen before..
My curiosity has been so piqued, that perhaps with luck, as I still have contacts, in a few hours we will see a few GTX 980 in action….;D
Best regards.
Welcome, although you should not expect much in terms of performance against your Titans although perhaps you will show us some wonders in terms of OC.
Regards.
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Hello everyone.
The truth is that I'm totally disconnected from this little world, it's good to do it even if you don't believe me..;)
However, I was very surprised by the new architecture. It really has a potential and efficiency never seen before..
My curiosity was so piqued, that perhaps with luck, as I still have contacts, in a few hours we'll see a few GTX 980 in action….;D
Best regards.
That's that, you go ahead because these are the ones we like the most, here we see all the pros and cons, I'm surprised with some OCs that are seen, with stock voltages nothing modified.
But you know that many appreciate you giving your first-hand opinion after knowing almost all the current cards.
Kinping already put the EVGA to over 2GHZ of GPU-Z, it wouldn't be strange that in reality they are 2.2ghz, because it seems that it has boost.
EVGA, K|NGP|N and TiN Break New Records with EVGA GeForce GTX 980 | techPowerUp
Best regards
Welcome, although you shouldn't expect much in terms of performance against your Titan although perhaps you'll show us some wonders in terms of OC.
Best regards.
In your case, it must be better to have three than two, three 970 should perform better at those resolutions, two 980 will have the advantage if a third is added later, but buying at once is better to have three.
It's that for the price of two 980 you get three 970, and if we talk already between one 980 and two 970 the difference will be quite large in favor of two, although a bit more expensive.
Although for 4K I wouldn't put 2 customized, I would put at least one stock, if it's a good cooler like the one on the Titan even better, because they could get hot, especially the one on top.
Best regards
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I already have them around here.
The TITANs are monsters, but it has to be acknowledged that they haven't gone very far... I'm having problems with them and I haven't put voltage.De into one of them for centuries. In fact, I have no choice but to do an RMA on one of them already, because it's more like that way than this way.
That's one of the main reasons.Si. If the 4 would work with all their potential, I wouldn't bother to try them out... but well, it's already impossible to find TITANs and besides, the price would be absurd.
I'll upload something later.
bye for now.
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In your case, it must be better to have 3 than two, three 970s should perform better at those resolutions, two 980s will have the advantage if a third is added later, but buying three at once is better.
It's that for the price of two 980s, you can get three 970s, and if we talk about the difference between one 980 and two 970s, the difference will be quite large in favor of two, although a bit more expensive.
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Knowing ELP3, he won't go below 3 or 4 graphics, he will surely give good reference on scaling, I think with 2 970s I'm well served, but for the price of these 970s, it's not a problem to add a third after reading a lot, I'm passing on the Asus Strix, even though I love that they are 0db, having 50ºC at idle on 2 graphics doesn't appeal to me, the reference ones with their 24 cm by 11.5 would be ideal to keep distance between them in SLI.
Regards.
I already have them around here.
The TITANs are monsters, but it must be recognized that they haven't gone very far... I'm having problems with them and that's because I haven't put voltage.De on them for ages, in fact, I have no choice but to do an RMA on one already, because it's more this way than that.
That's one of the main reasons.Si if the 4 would work with all their potential, I wouldn't bother to try them..but well, it's already impossible to find TITANs and besides, the price would be absurd.
I'll upload something later.
salu2.
How fast it counts, how many 2,3,4
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I already have them around here.
The TITAN are monsters, but it has to be recognized that they haven't gone very far... I'm having problems with them and even though it's been ages since I put voltaje.De in fact, I have no choice but to do an RMA for one already, because it's more like that way than this way.
That's one of the main motivos.Si. If the 4 would work with all their potential, I wouldn't bother to try them... but well, it's already impossible to find TITAN and besides, the price would be absurd.
I'll upload something later.
salu2.
Yes, for anyone who has graphics cards like the Titan, 780, 780Ti, it's not worth changing, although people end up doing it to tinker or to reduce noise and consumption, but it's a shame that there isn't more competition because with Maxwell they could bring out graphics cards that are quite powerful even in 28nm.
The performance per watt leaves Kepler at a standstill and even more so GCN, the bad thing is that they're going to give it drop by drop.
Saludos
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Bueno empecemos por algo:
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Well, well, well… just like Elp3, since I set up the SLI of 780Ti I'm somewhat disconnected... just enjoying the games without worrying about the tinkering... XD
Although seeing that you already have 4 bitches of these here, I'm sitting in the front row to see how they behave...
Thanks Elp3...! A hug and enjoy.
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Bueno empecemos por algo:
Muy interesantes esas Gigabyte, aunque sus 31cm no es para todo el mundo, al tener 2 conectores de 8 pins me da la sensación de tener mas potencial de OC que las otras customs.
Están montadas sobre socket 2011 o 2011-3?
Salu2.
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Bueno, bueno, bueno… al igual que Elp3, desde que monté el SLI de 780Ti estoy algo desconectado... simplemente disfrutando de los juegos sin preocuparme del cacharreo... XD
Aunque viendo que ya tienes 4 bichas de estas aquí, voy sentándome en primera fila a ver cómo se comportan...
Gracias Elp3...! Un abrazo y a disfrutar.Si ya se te ve por steam con los juegos, en cuanto a estas graficas creo que ahora no te interesa cambiar por rendimiento, lo mejor es seguir con las 780ti hasta que salgan los 20nm y ya mirar un GM200 o 210, que es donde se debe ver una mejora grande.
Esas si que deben destacar con resoluciones altas, además deberían tener todas las mejoras de estas y alguna nueva, las 780ti siguen siendo unas bestias.
Saludos
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Very interesting those Gigabyte, although their 31cm is not for everyone, having 2 with 8 pin connectors gives me the feeling of having more OC potential than the other customs.
Are they mounted on socket 2011 or 2011-3?
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They are reference ones Patagonico, I can't mount 4 customized ones.
First contact.
Unigine 1080p everything to the extreme and 8 layers of aa 1080p and an OC close to 1500MHZ with 0,5 v of extra voltage..
Not bad at all the result.
Regards.
uff, I made a mistake, I didn't put ultra in quality…then I do it..;) the lack of custom..jeje
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Unigine doesn't seem to be its strong point, according to reviews, it runs like a 780Ti or close to it but it's not where they excel, you can see that tessellation no longer increases even though it's the performance chip, which isn't bad either, the big one should definitely stand out clearly.
What I find interesting is the DSR thing, I don't think that can be done with Kepler.
Regards
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Patagonico is the reference, I can't mount 4 customized ones
Oh I didn't see any Gigabyte reference, even on their pages the only ones published are the custom ones
http://ar.gigabyte.com/products/list.aspx?s=43&p=52,53@53@53,62&v=1,8@1@2,29
Regards.
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Ostia I didn't see any reference to Gigabyte, even on their pages the only ones published are the customs
http://ar.gigabyte.com/products/list.aspx?s=43&p=52,53@53@53,62&v=1,8@1@2,29
Saludos.
This is although maybe not even gigabyte has it on their website, they will have several websites, they will have it on the main one
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 4GB GDDR5 GV-N980D5-4GD-B Graphics Card
For SLI that cooler is very good.
Saludos
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This is although perhaps not even a gigabyte on its website, it will have several websites, it will have it on the main one
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 980 4GB GDDR5 GV-N980D5-4GD-B Graphics Card
For SLI this cooler is very good.
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Nice it reminds me of the Titan, I suppose the GTX 970 will be the same pointed design to keep it in mind.
Nvidia GeForce GTX 980 SLI / 3-way SLI / 4-way SLI review
http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/5623/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-sli–3-way-sli--4-way-sli-review
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