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    X470 motherboard for a Ryzen 2600 and in the future a Ryzen 3000

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    • whoololonW Desconectado
      whoololon Veteranos HL @rul3s
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      @rul3s Then I would look at the X470 Taichi from Asrock or the X470 Aorus from Gigabyte.

      As for the memory, the fact that it's made by Samsung is not a snobbery or a whim, it's because you make sure that they will work at the frequency they come with, yes or yes (while a Hynix at 3000 may have to be set to 2933), and from there you can raise the B-Die to what they give, which doesn't happen with the others.

      They won't be as damn as the first ones, but they are still very delicate with the RAM issue. If you're not going to get a B-Die, make sure at least that they are on the QVL of the motherboard you choose.

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      • rul3sR Desconectado
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        @whoololon said in X470 motherboard for a Ryzen 2600 and in the future a Ryzen 3000:

        @rul3s Then I would look at the Asrock X470 Taichi or the Gigabyte X470 Aorus.

        As for the memory, the fact that it's made by Samsung is not a snobbery or a whim, it's that you make sure they will work at the frequency they come with yes or yes (while a Hynix at 3000 you may have to set it to 2933), and from there you can raise the B-Die to whatever they give, which doesn't happen with the others.

        They won't be as damn good as the first ones, but they are still very delicate with the RAM issue. If you're not going to get a B-Die, make sure at least that they are on the QVL of the motherboard you choose.

        :nerd:

        The issue, more than whether they are Samsung or not, is that Ryzen doesn't have a 3000 multiplier, so even if they are Samsung B-Die they wouldn't work at this speed, but at 2933 or @3200.
        Actually I've looked a bit and in some places they say it's better to have 2933@CL15 than 3200@CL16, although in the same way I think that with a little OC you could also set them to 3200 by raising the CL15 to CL16.

        And about the motherboard, it's not that I don't want to listen to you, but it's a +90€ on the motherboard and it doesn't fit my budget anymore.

        I've been googling a lot and I read a lot of people with these RAMs working perfectly on Ryzen at 2933 and fine.
        And about the motherboards, then I read that the Asus TUFs are motherboards aimed at longevity, but not very far in terms of features, and finally the Astock Master has some lousy VRMs, so the final choice will be the MSI Gaming Plus, the only difference with the PRO is the backplate, that's it!

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          @rul3s you will see how you will look great with that MSI hehe At least I hope we both have luck ?

          Greetings!!

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            @_neptunno_ said in X470 motherboard for a Ryzen 2600 and in the future a Ryzen 3000:

            @rul3s you'll see how that MSI suits you like a glove jejeje At least I hope we both get lucky ?

            Saludos!!

            What motherboard and RAM did you get yourself @_Neptunno_??

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              @rul3s said in X470 motherboard for a Ryzen 2600 and in the future a Ryzen 3000:

              @_neptunno_ said in X470 motherboard for a Ryzen 2600 and in the future a Ryzen 3000:

              @rul3s you'll see how you'll look great with that MSI hehe At least I hope we both have luck ?

              Greetings!!

              What motherboard and RAM did you get yourself @_Neptunno_??

              Well, in the end when I ordered the computer, I had already bought the car, oh well :( I know I was making the budget before but it's true that I didn't place the order until after the holidays.

              This is what I bought in mid-August, I received:

              PROCESSOR AMD RYZEN 5 2600X 4.2 GHZ: 181.74€
              RAM MEMORY G.KILL RIPJAWS V RED 1.0 DDR4 3000 2X8GB: 156.20€
              MOTHERBOARD MSI B450 GAMING PLUS: 82.56€

              In total, they cost me around 419€, so subtracting what they gave me for the other equipment, I spent around 140€, which I don't think is bad for a "pleasure" and maybe I'll be tempted to look at a Ryzen 3000... which is what made me stay with a R5 and not a R7 2700 ?

              To be honest, I'm not sure if the memory is the best for Ryzen, I don't remember if I bought it for something specific or for the price.

              Greetings!!

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              • rul3sR Desconectado
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                Well, today I just placed the order coinciding that two offers have come out that made me not think about it much.

                In the end I got the following:

                • Ryzen 5 2600 - 163€ with promo The division 2
                • Gigabyte x470 Aorus Ultra Gaming - Offer at 129€ (PVP 150€)
                • KFA2 HOF DDR4 4000 CL19 16GB (2x8) B-Die - Great deal at 130€ (PVP 240€)

                All ordered, hopefully it will arrive tomorrow!

                @_Neptunno_ @whoololon

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                • whoololonW Desconectado
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                  What envy I have of you, bastard. ?

                  Record the unboxing (there is a lot of hype) and keep us informed with performance and OC topics.

                  By the way, what cooler are you going to put on that 2600?

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                    @whoololon said in X470 motherboard for a Ryzen 2600 and in the future a Ryzen 3000:

                    What envy I have of you, damn it. ?

                    Record the unboxing (there's a lot of hype) and keep us informed with performance and OC topics.

                    By the way, what cooler are you going to put on that 2600?

                    I'll stick with my Noctua NHU12, which, by the way, the after-sales service from Noctua is fantastic.
                    I sent them a message the other day saying I needed the mounts for AM4, since my Noctua is already 8 years old, and they sent them to me totally free of charge... Incredible!

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                      Oops, I'm late, I would have recommended the B450 Pro Carbon ?

                      Yes, Noctua does it well, it's their policy. Thermalright also does it officially with AM4, they even sent me the clip kit for free.

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                        Very different from those of Scithe. I have two Ninja, a Rev.A and a B and they do not have supports for AM4. And I believe they would be more than capable of being able to dissipate them. A shame. They will die in the drawer.

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                          @garfield said in X470 motherboard for a Ryzen 2600 and in the future a Ryzen 3000:

                          Very different from those of Scithe. I have two Ninja, one Rev.A and one B and they do not have AM4 mounts. And I believe they would be more than capable of being able to dissipate them. A shame. They will die in the drawer

                          I have the exact same problem, at that time a friend got the Scyte Ninja v1, I got the Noctua NHU12.
                          Some time later when he renewed his PC the Scyte ninja was left in a drawer as we did not have support for the new sockets, despite using the same system as the new versions (read in forums) in customer service they told us that nanai, that neither for free nor paying would they send them to us.
                          I will never buy anything from Scythe again.

                          By the way, I already have all the material and I am doing tests, as soon as I have good conclusions I will tell you, for now, I leave you a FireStrike with the 2070:

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