Of course, if you install in AHCI mode and then when you change the Bios, it defaults to ide, you will have problems booting windows, but that can be changed and you're good to go.

@boncoe:

I recommend a Corsair 600T case. It's a great investment, good finishes, space, powerful 200 fans, and very convenient filters to remove and install, all without needing a screwdriver every time you want to remove a hard drive cover, etc.

take reflote :troll::troll:
greetings

I have already solved it, I changed the frequency manually and the latencies and it works wonderfully. Regards

The thing is, I think that with all this info, you can't build a PC for 600 euros, not even joking... :eoh:

Miau :troll: Revende ese equipo y el Crossfire y con la pasta móntate un 2500K de segunda zarpa + una 7870, es un triunfo, harme caso premoh, aún estás a tiempo! :ugly:

an example: and if that were the case, put a Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 1TB SATA3 - approx 58 euros

regards

@jonjon:

Solved! I bought that memory and it works perfectly!

The PC doesn't die because of slower memory, what happens with those memories is that they are registered and don't work on any computer, that they are 400 usually doesn't matter if you then raise them with more voltage they usually do 667 easily, even 800, I know this because I've had memories like that and they could be raised but they don't work with any motherboard, they usually didn't work for me on Asus, but they do work on a DFI, but they are HP brand memories, which they do so that you buy them from them more expensive.

Hewlett-Packard 397413-B21 - RAM Memory - for 181,5 €

it's better to buy another PC, rather than buying memory like that.

regards

ferelxyx [image: sinttulo1xd.jpg] Todo perfecto. esta en XPM,intente en manual pero no me permitia modificar algunos datos del voltaje no sé por que. Bueno listo gran ayuda todo instalado muchas gracias. Frank por tu parte me apena que te haya cabreado conmigo sin motivo alguno, o sin la explicación de ninguno. De todas formas agradezco tu tiempo. Ahora lo de Frank es coña, antes no, era por si crees que te tomaba el pelo, no, eso no lo hago y menos con gente que me esta ayudando. Saludos y gracias

@garfield: Esto es más una ayuda a los vrm de la placa que una sustitución. Pero eso de manejar 25A con ese tamaño es una pasada. Y también una evolución lógica a la disminución del voltaje del micro. Necesitan que sea lo más perfecto posible para que no se produzcan errores por picos de voltaje o potencia. Creo que a ese micro funcionando a 0.875v si no leí mal que empiece a fructuar no le va a ayudar mucho. Por ese lado lo veo perfecto. Y seguro que como dices dedicarán más a memorias y NB, que está pasando lo mismo: cada vez menos voltaje que no puede/debe variar mucho. saludos Quiza al necesitar solo 0,875v para la frecuencia de serie por eso ya se han visto algunos 4770k o 4670k a 5000 MHz con solo 1V, incluso alguno a 6200 MHz con 1,21v que parece muy poco voltaje, aunque tampoco sabemos cual será el voltaje máximo que recomienda Intel para esos CPU. Ya solo faltaría que esos 5 GHz y 1v lo aguantaran con un disipador de serie o uno barato, aunque desde luego ese FIVR va a calentar mas el CPU, lo que también es verdad es que una disipación buena en CPU debe mantener mejor temperatura que los típicos disipadores de VRM de la placa. curiosamente la placa de los 6200 MHz y 1,21v es una MSI big bang con z87. saludos @Ruruloko: Es la MSI XPower Z87, es que me ha impactado las fases de alimentacion de esa palca, como bien dices las gigabyte e biostar tendran mejores chipset de audio y seguramente que con menos desembolso consigas los mismos efectos de potencia sobre la cpu, ram e gpus. Es impresionante un i5 subido a 6ghz, pienso que habrá sido con r.l. No se el precio que tendrá de salida pero me parece muy buena placa, habrá que esperar que salga haswell para verla funcionar. Saludos. Perdona que no vi tu mensaje, según dice ese articulo parece que las fases en la placa van a seguir igual, las de Haswell parece que solo transformaran la corriente a una mas baja y se encargaran de limpiar la señal, además esas fases digamos que controlaran todo del CPU, osea desactivar nucleos o dejar solo trabajando la IGP integrada. lo que esta por ver es si placas de gama mas baja con menos fases consiguen un OC parecido, esa MSI es una Mpower parece que no era ningún modelo gama alta, aunque en MSI te nombra sus placas asi en código, me refiero a CPU-Z osea que quizá si sea una placa de gama alta, pero al menos las que yo he tenido y te nombra ese código son placas buenas pero no las mejores. También una Asrock ha puesto con un 4670T osea uno de bajo consumo las memorias a 3300 MHz, parece que pueden subir bien tanto en CPU como en memorias esos Haswell. La de 7 GHz esa no es RL esa debe ser LN2 por que mas de 2v es una locura. Edito; esta MSI es esa que pone Jotole y tiene muy buena pinta, es la que puso el 4670K a 6200mhz con 1.21v, parece que MSI se esta poniendo las pilas. http://images.anandtech.com/doci/6970/MSI%20Z87%20MPower%20Max%20Oblique.jpg saludos

If the automatic setup doesn't go exactly as you want, you can set it up manually. In case you don't know what latency is, you can always search the internet, eg.: RAM timings knowledge base.

Bm4n I just have a problem with XMP, the frequencies don't take me beyond being 2000Mhx

Obviously it won't hold up as well as the 2011 hexacores, but in demanding games that take advantage of it, it will hold up a bit more than pure quads.

These screenshots are from maldo:

To me it doesn't seem like an insignificant increase in performance. It is true that we still don't know what future ports will ask for. Currently I already have a few games that benefit from ht:

battlefield3, farcry 3 and its spin off and crysis3. As a general rule, ht comes into play when they ask for more than 4 cores. At least that's what users of these micros have told me, even from the hexacores + ht.

There will always be cpu-dependent games, whether there are consoles or not. There may be a game developed in parallel for pc, online games or exclusives that make good use of our equipment.

@G0D1N0:

What would happen if the Core i3 had an unlocked multiplier? We tested the Core i3-3220 (Core i7-3770K 2C/4T) @ 4.5 GHz

We decided to record with the "Core i3-3220K" processor, which is actually a Core i7-3770K with two cores disabled.

NOTE!

The processor called Core i3-3220K, of course, does not exist. This is just an attempt to simulate the Core i7-3770K, with half the cores discounted!

Core i3 K version?

Intel's official media probably never mentioned the Core i3 unlock. Open, the one whose multiplier can be freely adjusted. The first Core i3 with LGA1156 socket, but they were locked with the multiplier, the ability to adjust the BCLK frequency could overclock even above 4.5 GHz. So we could have a relatively cheap processor to buy a fairly fast processor, but we are talking, of course, about gaming, since that's what we are most interested in today.

Since overclocking Sandy Bridge Core i3 does not really exist and people who want to accelerate their equipment have to spend much more on a Core i5 with an unlocked multiplier, or look at AMD's range. Unlocked "green" processors, you can get from 300 EUR, for example, the Athlon X4 750K model! Also, do not forget about the FX-s - all have unlocked multipliers.

Today we show you what would happen if... the Core i3 had an unlocked multiplier. Unfortunately, Intel does not provide this type of processor, so we decided to make a comparison on our own. We took the Core i7-3770K and disabled the two cores. Sorry, we could not remove the third-level cache, so it still has 8 MB, but we have examined its impact on performance, publishing the Core i7-3770K 2C/4T speed clock graphics at 3.3 GHz, which is identical to that of the Core i3-3220. The following is the unit that participated in the comparison (especially interested in overclocked systems).

Summary:

Would this Core i3 with an unlocked multiplier be a success? Well, yes and no. There is no doubt that it would be an attractive proposal for people for whom gaming is the most important of many applications. After a little more than 400 zł you would get a processor that, after overclocking, but not corresponding to the partially blocked Core i5, would be faster than AMD units (also overclocked). Of course, we are still talking about a single application, and it must be remembered that, in the best use of multithreading, the Core i3 would have no chance with the mentioned systems.

In our opinion, Intel did not add a Core i3 with an unlocked multiplier. It would be an interesting option, providing a soft landing for those who cannot afford a quad-core Core i5 and would like to have a fast processor for games. But only for them, because someone who would be enough effective Core i5, and so do not have to think about what an unlocked Core i3 would be.

The graphics also place first the performance of the Core i3, which appeared on the desktop market, and also the only one that could reasonably adjust. Core i3-500 family and its representative Core i3-550, even after accelerating to 4.4 GHz, is not able to catch up in terms of performance implicit clock speed of a scorching Core i3-3220 processor (3.3 GHz). This demonstrates how significant performance increase has occurred in terms of frequency in recent years in Intel's offer.

I think it would be an interesting option if the price were worth it, if they were to put it as one of the low-end i5 I don't see it as good anymore, no matter how much you can overclock.

It would have to be a CPU for less than 100€, because it would not only be good for gaming, it would also be good for HTPC, small equipment and not very expensive, it could be good for many things, but if they put a high price on it, I don't think most people would be interested, only for OC and trying to make a superpi record and benchmark of that style, which only use one core.

Because in terms of OC a dual should overclock well, they should go to a higher frequency than the Quad and more if they put it through LN2, but of course the price of the CPU would matter a lot.

Anyway, I don't think they can simulate well what an unlocked I3 would be like, since that CPU should overclock better than a 3770K, although the wafers will influence, but a dual is very likely to go higher than a Quad.

Regards

hello friend as promised is a debt…I have already been testing the memos thoroughly and I left them at 1958 mhz and I lowered latencies to 9-10-9-25 @ 1.6 volts and it works great,not a single problem....thanks for the info and the help.Regardshttp://foro.hardlimit.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

I'm with the colleagues, that team for HTPC still works for you. In fact, I have a 754 doing the same function and it works pretty well for me. As long as you put a soft that doesn't weigh it down much, don't overload it with programs, and keep it clean and well cooled inside, it will work very well for you.

Regards

@john79:

hello friends I am new and just starting to understand the process of overclocking I join this forum to find help since I do not have good training in the subject. Well explained my reason I proceed to tell you my doubts= I appreciate your collaboration and understanding since I do not know the terminologies in computer science==( I have an asrock G41M-VS3 R2.0 motherboard " ASRock > G41M-VS3 R2.0 " with a CPU INTEL DUAL CORE E5300 2.6 GHZ processor 2GB ram memory
and a 250GB disk fully functioning Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Service Pack 1 operating system
well I just want to overclock it using the OC TUNER tool from asrock but I do not know how to overclock the ram either if it is possible I appreciate your collaboration and thank you very much

That motherboard will not allow much overclocking, the good thing is that this processor has a high multiplier and with raising the FSB to 266 it should already have an important frequency, you will need a little more voltage but that would be better to put a picture of the bios of the motherboard, the part where it is overclocked. it is a very basic motherboard and it will not be able to do much look here I found something.

DRAM Frecuency [AUTO] here according to the memory you have put a manual value approximate to the memory, that after putting the CPU frequency
DRAM Command Rate [AUTO]

CPU Frecuency (MHz) [200] here for example 250
PCIE Frecuency (MHz) [100]

DRAM Voltage [AUTO]
NB Voltage [AUTO]
VTT Voltage [AUTO]
GTLRef Voltage [AUTO]

I do not see the CPU voltage, it would be better to put a picture of the bios area where those options I put are.

You also have to keep in mind that if you put an XMP profile in, the board doesn't take into account if you increased the FSB, so it might not support it because it's seeing a speed in Mhz, when what it applies is a divider, and the speed it applies is another (higher).

Salu2!