@Falkemberg:

mmm the black asus looks quite similar to the sabertooth... will they change the name to Haswell but with a similar aesthetic configuration? The red one will be a Maximus for Haswell.

It seems that the black Asus is going to be the new ROG, possibly they will stop releasing Maximus and put that new one, although for now there is nothing official.

regards

@ferelxyx:

ECS has three Z87H3-AX Extreme, Golden Z87H3-AX, and H87H3 M4.
The two Z87H3-AX seem to be identical to the boards in the 7 series, the gold version Z87H3-AX with gold components and heatsinks.
The PCH Z87 Z77 successor to the current z77, with support for overclocking, in addition to all the features of the platform, including Small Business Advantage.
The other board H87H3-M4 is the micro-ATX version of ECS based on the H87 chipset.
The H87 supports almost all the features of the Z87 although it does not support Overclock

I don't understand Intel's strategy. A Z87 does the same as an H87 and if the latter doesn't allow OC, I see it as a waste of time and money, although of course I suppose that H87 will be cheaper and will go to clone assemblers, but it will always be better to go for an economical Z87, it has video connection and also allows OC.

I also think that if Intel continues to cap OC, many people will continue not to update because from an i7 920 or an i5 750 you already have a good CPU and it's not as necessary to update as it was with SB or 1366,
the latter was also worth it for moving from 775, but right now the improvement doesn't compensate for those who have an SB, SB-E or ivy, even with a good 920 or a 750 you still have a good CPU, so if Haswell doesn't allow good OC maybe Intel will regret it as with Ivy.

I put that ECS in the first message although it will also be seen in yours, I hope you don't mind, it's to put all the ones at the beginning that can be seen, we will keep putting the new images that come out.

Here Asus already shows its Z87 and fails. The Gryphon is a microATX board, it continues with Maximus VI and Gene.

http://wccftech.com/asus-z87-motherboards-unveiled-maximus-vi-extreme-maximus-vi-hero-z87-sabertooth-z87-gryphoon-pictured/

regards

@ferelxyx:

hello and welcome, well if you are right that chipset can't do more

BOARD
Compatible with all CPUs with FSB1600/1333/1066/800MHz
Works with DDR2 800/667 in dualchannel
Intel Graphics 3100, DirectX 9.0 and maximum shared memory of 384MB
PCIexpress 1X and 16X

PROCESSOR
CPU clock of 2.5Ghz
Bus speed: 800Mhz
Multiplier (Ratio/Clock): 12.5x
L2 cache size: 2Mb
Manufacturing technology: 45nm
Core Stepping: –
Thermal design power: 65w
Thermal specification: 74.1 C
Voltage range: 0.85V - 1.3625V

I'll explain how you can overclock it a bit more

if you want to overclock at 800mhz (EG: go from 2.5ghz to 3.3ghz) you move the jumper 1 to position 2-3 next to the micro:

this is how the original jumper configuration looks

to overclock at 800mhz you move jumper 1 to position 2-3

if you want to continue increasing the MHZ: in the BIOS, go to advanced, enter cpu configuration
and here you will change the overclock option to:
CPU,PCI-E SYNC –--- if you have a video card
CPU,PCI-E ASYNC---- you don't have a video card

and start increasing the values by 2 remember that you are increasing the FSB which is the value that will be multiplied to give the CPU speed (the voltage adjusts automatically).
don't increase the values all at once, always by 2 until you find the maximum, remember that you have already overclocked to 800mhz I think that's quite a lot...

PD: remember that this is not a gaming board and you are squeezing all the potential out of it and that chipset can't do much

regards

Thank you very much I have managed to go up to 3.2Ghz, I haven't tried to go higher but it's good for me :ugly:
The CPU still has a very good temperature of 25 º "at rest" it's a shame that you can't get more out of the micro because of the board but well.

Regards and thanks to everyone

Hello

Check the memory, it could be faulty. A memtest helps in these cases, you should also examine the slots, which on occasion are very troublesome.

Out of curiosity, what are the stock power supplies and the new one? Brand, model, power, efficiency... For quality issues, it's not that this system consumes a lot, but it's good to know.

Another option, although more remote, is that a component has been damaged in relation to its power supply and in some starts it is causing a slight sporadic short circuit, but as I say it is very unlikely.

Regards

Thanks fjavi for responding, I went to the guru page and unfortunately they no longer have those files
but I am downloading the ones from gygabyte and will try to see if there is any luck if not what are we going to do.
Thanks
If they work I will let you know.

Man, if you can get the manual, it wouldn't hurt, since we'd have to look at a couple of things...

The woman gave me this heavy piece of equipment... with two drives, one 20 and another 40... the 20 one, when you turn it on, makes a very strange noise, it's really, really noisy. I shake it, and there's a clacking sound inside. I'm not sure if I should let it fall a little to test it or just skip it directly.

On the other one, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.04... the PC had 256mb of RAM, so I put a 512mb RAM in it that I had lying around, and for now it's working with 768, let's see how the installation goes, it already gave me an error once... xDD This is going downhill...

One question, the PC had an ATI Club-3D Radeon 7500 XT graphics card, I put an ATI Club x1550 in it that I had lying around the house, this second one should be much better, right?

@Sylver:

It's going well, it's important for AMD to carve out a small space in desktops, they could be a very good alternative if these new micros come out at a lower price than intel with similar performance, even for low-budget gaming rigs with more than decent performance.
The truth is that if intel releases another new range of i5s, I don't know to what extent it will benefit us, the first generations will already be obsolete and support will start to be less, etc... But in general, I agree with what Bm4n says: let's hope that the software improves to make better use of more cores together in the processors, it could be the key for the user to benefit when choosing one platform or another.

Thanks for the contribution Franziskaner
Best regards!

well man …. you in nothing, because for that you have a new and shiny I5 but all the others who want to upgrade the PC wouldn't find with A: a second option to the I5 2500K (in my particular case as a "faithful" AMD user I could almost save myself the change of motherboard) B a forced price drop by intel (which if the AMD comes out good in my opinion there are only two options: lower prices (which they really go overboard) or come out with something better, like the I5s at a similar price, with which the I5s would have to lower their price.
I repeat, these are personal opinions but if the new AMDs don't go over 180 euros and perform better than the I5 2500K :troll: we'll have guaranteed fun, I'm eager to say that one of:
the king is dead LONG LIVE THE KING. (clear allusion to the death of the I5 and the new reign of the 8350. that if I'm not a king, then they better not be the ones from the deck :troll::troll:)
P.D about the contribution..... for a good one what do I do ;D
best regards

@rkhd033:

I'll stick with what I have then, if after almost three years with this laptop it's not worth upgrading the processor, then I don't need it

Thank you very much

Of course that processor is still pretty good for a laptop, if you wanted it for gaming then it's better to change the graphics, although that laptop seems to have a low resolution and that's why it doesn't need much graphics either, what you should do is put it on maximum performance, when you need the CPU to be faster and it will go to 2800mhz, here it's called extreme turbo, I don't think it will fall short, some like that still defend themselves very well on the desktop like the i5 750 or the famous i7 920, they are processors similar to that. here you can see how to put that turbo thing.

http://shop.asus.es/shop/es/es-ES/Home/1-Productos/5-Ordenadores/24-Portatiles/90NYLB562X13F5VL63FY-ASUS-G60JX-portatil.aspx

regards

well honestly Kynes I've tried to destroy your theory and ….. I couldn't :wall: I had to have a lot of willpower to cancel the order at the last click :eoh:
anyway it doesn't make sense that on the main page they have a price and you can be redirected to the same one but with another price
regards and thanks
P.D although I still have the temptation to upgrade my 9950

@Wargreymon: Por cierto Jotole, ¿Has probado a monitorizar con el AB el uso de CPU durante el juego? Sería bastante interesante… . Hoy me he acordado de esto que comentabamos el otro día, y he dejado una aplicación corriendo mientras jugaba, el openhardwaremonitor. Esta aplicación te permite saber a que niveles maximos ha llegado desde el uso de cpu, a memoria, temp, o incluso voltajes. A mi megusta mucho porque controla todo los niveles del pc, y te dice cual es el punto maximo. [image: usodecpu.jpg] En la columna mas a la derecha tenemos los valores maximos, y en la de la izquierda el actual. El uso de cpu, para todos los cores oscila desde el 50 al 60%, fijaos que el uso de la memoria ram solo con el Crysis 3 abierto se va hasta los 5,3 Gb… @unicoor: Esto me suena a mi :ugly: Jejejejeee ;). Salu2…

Uh I didn't know that lol, I only took it off my P4 when I changed my computer and it wasn't easy, but I hated the AMDs that you could see the corners peeling off :@

Anyway, the more secure the micros are, the better, I was happy when they removed the pins, I'd rather fry a micro due to overvoltage than anything physical

@Bm4n:

Jolote el de la firma si deberías cambiarlo :risitas: De todas no conozco a nadie que no esté contento con la 2011 y como bien dices si no hay una mejora considerable de rendimiento es una tontería

Pues yo conozco unos pocos, no por el procesador en sí, que es una mala bestia, si no por las placas X79, que se salvan con los dedos de una mano las que no hacen cosas raras, reseteos de bios, fallo de sonido integrado, fallos de USB, etc..

Yo sin ir mas lejos he pasado por una Rampage IV Extreme, una Asrock Extreme 7, y por fin parece que he dado con una placa estable sin problemas (tocaré madera….......xD)

Lo de la firma, es que soy un nostálgico y al regresar a este foro, me encontré con el equipo que tenía cuando me registré y tan buenos momentos me hizo pasar en un CRT de 17"..........:ugly:

Ahora voy camino de un Surround de U2711, Madre como cambian los tiempos......!!

Igual pronto la cambio, pero para lo que me duran los componentes, no sé que poner.........xD.

Perdon por el offtopic.

Salu2...

@deeiivid:

But equally, this closes a lot of work for those of us who professionally or to make a little money (like me) dedicate ourselves to repairing computers of that type... Or even to give them a second life in the future.

Well yes... but they have done this like the cars.... you can't even change a headlight without dismantling half the car... so only the workshops could repair (with the subsequent economic anger of the normal user).... well, almost the same thing... only the assemblers could repair their equipment... making a profit from it.

ok, thanks

I hadn't realized it, I'm sorry. and thanks for the info, in the end I decided on intel, now the thing is to choose between which i5 or which i7 xd.
for me to close the topic

I updated many from Windows and no problem

the best is, in the bios put system defaults and then update
then put system defaults start the windows and if everything goes well
go to the bios and put it to the liking and needs of each one

PD: I already imagined that your motherboard by USB would not serve you for that

regards

Man 40€ is not expensive compared to the current price of DDR 400, but as I told you, that computer has a big bottleneck in the micro. I would look for selling your parts, add the 40€ you were thinking of spending on the memory and you will add about 80€ or more.

Asrock H61M-DGS 90-MXGLE0-A0UAYZ Placa Base Placa 41
Kingston ValueRAM 4GB DDR3 1333 PC3-10600 CL9 KVR1333D3N9/4G Memoria DDR3 Memos 24
Intel Celeron G1610 2.6Ghz Box BX80637G1610 Procesador Micro 38

This is just an example, for just over 100€ you can put together a pretty good little setup, mind you, it's just an example, for a little more you can get an AMD 3-core or even 4-core micro, and see if the micro already comes with a heatsink. And DDR3, even with a price increase in recent weeks, is very cheap. I know it will seem like a hassle, but there is no possible comparison between your equipment and this one, which is just an example.

If despite everything you want DDR 400. I would buy it, and as soon as you can, change the platform and sell the components. There are still many people who buy DDR 400 for old equipment, and that memory will sell easily. I would sell the 512 modules and the change would cost you 20€ or less.

Regards.

Sure the 400D would suit you a bit better :troll:

Sometimes hard drive capacities are given in Gb (1000 Mb) instead of in Gib (1024 MiB). Since the operating system measures in GiB, the advertised amounts are reduced. On the other hand, the initial capacity is reduced by formatting, so the final usable space of the hard drive is usually far from what the manufacturer promised.

As for the OS taking up too much space, it wouldn't be surprising. Anyway, check the partition table.