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@defaultuser more or less. Times change, but the steps to follow and discard don't vary much over time. 
Exactly. I discarded the CPU because it always worked well, that's why I left it connected. Fortunately, this computer at least has the speaker for the beeps, the new one, when I built it and stuff, didn't do anything and I was surprised to see that it doesn't have anything and the MB doesn't have a screen or LED, it was like going blind.
My current motherboard is this: MSI MPG X570S EDGE MAX
And it doesn't have a screen or LEDs.
The old-fashioned speaker and off to the races.
Regards
I understand that MSI has been doing well with the motherboards for AM4, even surpassing models from well-reputed brands, that of the speaker must have been to cut costs against the competition, otherwise it would be a negative point in an Edge Max depending on how you look at it.
Depending on how you look at it, to say it again...
If you have a tower with a window, you'll see the LEDs or the screen, if that's not the case... you won't see anything and you'll have to open the PC.
Idem if you have the tower under the table.
Anyway, I read an interesting article criticizing the current mid-range motherboards.
Basically, they said that they stuff us with unnecessary things.
Like three or four PCI Express ports when practically no one uses SLI
More than one M.2 port for the same reason (which wasn't my case, I installed 2)
Wi-Fi antennas, which in a desktop you normally use an RJ cable
And the collection of SATA ports for the same reason
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Well, that's true. The problem is that they make them almost the same in that sense.
There are people who will put special cards in the PCI (capture cards and more) but most don't, and there are no motherboards that dispense with so many slots.
There are people who want to mount several SATA drives, and even complain about few ports lately, but most don't either.
The double M.2 idem, if there are two from the CPU it might be interesting to have a RAID to save (cheaper drives to have size and cheaper speed), but having one from the CPU and another from the chipset is almost useless.
etc etc, I totally agree with everything, but I think those motherboards do have a clientele, the problem is that they don't make the option that sells the most, a PCI or one 4x more just in case you have to put something one day, an M.2 and a couple of SATA, and make a powerful motherboard but with just enough.
For me it's all marketing that we're going to do, most of the clientele is not specialized people and they sell them what they want.
Salu2.
PD: the PCIe and SATA ports are already on the chips, then the traces on the bottom of the motherboard are easy to solve and the connectors won't be expensive either. An example of a decent motherboard but without superfluos would be, for example, a Gigabyte DS3H, don't you think?