@rul3s Now I have a doubt, because I understood that you have to use a submultiple, not a multiple. I'm not sure how digital interfaces refresh data, but in VGA, if you generate two frames in a screen refresh, the first will appear in one half of the screen and the second in the second half (in DVI I think it works the same way). If you generate several frames per refresh, the screen will appear split into several pieces:

If instead of using a frame rate of double, you use quadruple, 4 cuts will appear on the screen and so on.

On the other hand, if you use a submultiple (eg: 30fps on a 60Hz screen), during two screen refreshes a single frame will be shown, so there will be "no" tearing.

This assuming that the frame generation and screen refresh are perfectly synchronized. If both the GPU and the screen work at 60fps but there is no synchronization, tearing will appear. In this case, the screen will always appear split in the same place:

If the frame change catches you in the middle of the screen, it will be clearly seen. If it catches you very high or very low, it will hardly be noticed. I think V-Sync did exactly this: to match the beginning of both cycles, but I'm not really sure.

The point is that if both refreshes go their own way, the line that separates both frames will appear in random places and that is really annoying. But then again, maybe I'm just swinging because it's been a while since I've been up to date on this.

@obione if in the end I decided on this one because otherwise in the end it wouldn't change xd the truth and of course now comes Navi hahaha

If it's any consolation, look for higher voltages and they will work. Even if they are a bit bigger. Here in Las Palmas I have an electronics/components store that is reliable and usually brings them from Japan. Although 4v is not a standard voltage, it is usually 6.5v which would work perfectly for you.

Well yes, we want photos!!
I like both, but something more MSI. The only time I used ASUS warranty with a second-hand HD4850, PCcomponentes replaced it with an MSI.
Just today a coworker gave me a GTX1060 3GB MSI, let's see if I can plug it in and test it out!
Best regards!!!

500€ is still a quarter of a car, in fact I shouldn't even pick up the 470, but let's see how much carpe diem I assume this Christmas

Great deal on that Kia from what I see I hope to get something similar, although I have a little less budget and the intention that it be a lighter as wide as possible

Best regards!

I've read about these models, and it seems that the best one is sold as 2070OC, which is similar to the 2080 and 2080ti. The truth is that I don't understand any of this. And from what I've been reading, it's not that much better the OC compared to the normal one. I think it improves temperatures a bit, but seeing the deaths of the 2080s, it's better to stop being silly. Because it seems to be due to high temperatures of the GPU, which as they use the same heatsink, end up dragging the memories. The solution that some seem to have found is to lower the speed of the memories. Strong solution.

@rul3s said in RTX 2070 or GTX 1080?:

Well, I finally ordered the Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Windforce 8GB GDDR6 at coolmod for 529€

Great! Let's see if you can do a small review

@namiga said in Motherboards and Multiple GPUs?:

Very good....
I was wondering if, really, any motherboard can support multiple GPUs.

My idea is not for gaming or mining BTC, but to return to Seti@Home

I am reading and I see that people use almost the same as for mining BTC, ethereum, LTC... t all resides on an Asrock BTC rev 2.0 (board with multiple PCIE X1...

The question is, if I wanted (which I want ) to make a machine for Seti@home with multiple GPUs... would I need by all means a board like this??? Or would a board with 3 PCIEx1 and a PCIx16... that is... a normal board... be enough?...

Best regards

They use the Asrock BTC because it has 7 pcie slots, so it depends on the number of graphics cards you want to mount for the SETI. If you want to mount a couple then a normal board will serve you, it all depends on the number of cards you want. As it's not for 3D, only for raw calculation, with the 1x interface there is enough bandwidth for the task. On the other hand if you wanted to mount a render farm or similar where there is intensive 3D use you would need more bandwidth than what the 1x channel provides.

Of course, temperatures - the biggest "enemy" of the GPU and other components.
100% load and 64-67º - are very good temperatures. Going over 74º - that's when you should start to worry.
You can lower the temperatures by limiting the frames per second (FPS): you limit it, for example, to 30-40FPS and everything is perfect, only the gaming experience at +/-30FPS is not the most pleasant, unfortunately. But you get good temperatures :slight_smile:

@rul3s

Yes, I was looking for one of these on Amazon, but in the end I decided to use another PC .

Thanks for the help .

Best regards!

Was that a "very light reflow"? Damn.

@kynes said in What the hell is going on with AMD's graphics stock? No RX560, no RX570, no RX580:

It seems that according to the president of AMD, they are increasing production smoothly, they don't want the market to be flooded with second-hand cards after a mining crash or a change in algorithm and preferred card, which would eat up a huge stock of new cards without selling. In Asia, they released mining cards without video output, but not even that worked.

Well, it makes sense, and their solution of releasing cards without video output, if they release them a bit cheaper, that's also good, but of course, they should release enough to cover the mining market, otherwise they will continue to buy the regular ones...

Now it is rumored that AMD is losing $100 for every Vega 64 sold with a wholesale price of $500. The reasons would be the encapsulation costs and the HBM2 memory. The extra costs of the latter could be solved when Hynix starts up its plant in October.

Well if it has to be nVIDIA, at least take advantage of the price drop they will have when they release the new RX Vega

Salu2!

@saludes.86 said in Graphics equal to or better than RX 460:

Hello! Unfortunately my graphics card died this Sunday, luckily I was able to recover the money: 140€.

Did it only last you 8 months? Well that was a bad one

Regarding the ones you put, personally I would save up waiting for AMD to continue releasing models and prices to drop a bit, or I would stretch to get a GTX1060 even if it's 3GB.

See you later!

I'm in the middle of it, between EVGA and Corsair.

It was seen that they are improved versions of the same hardware, I suppose that if you don't mind the extra consumption and heat... It is one more option to extend its life.

@cobito said in [Caja] Thermaltake Core V1:

I really like that case. I'm tired of my tower with some 5.25" bays that I no longer need. This one seems quite spacious even to put in graphics cards that are more or less big. Let's see if I finally decide to upgrade, I really need it.

By the way, I've uploaded the images to the forum server, so there's no risk that they will disappear over time.

Ok, I've put links to the rest of the photos in each part, if you want you can upload them too.

Yes, it also sounds like a software problem to me.
When you mention that "previously you could see them", what previously?
Have you installed another OS, update or similar?

Yes, a hassle because it was not very expensive, and in the end I had to mount the 1050 GTX TI which cost almost 50% more, when the RX460 was enough for my friend. That's right, until the image froze, my friend's computer was still alive.

I had thought about upgrading my AMD 7950 with an AMD RX480 but after seeing this, I lost the desire... so for the little I play, I will continue with the old one. Total right now I have "Zero" games installed... that's what age does... I like to play less and less.